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Tripod for Pentax 67II
Hi all,
I've just acquired a Pentax 67II with the 90mm lens. I'm going to be looking for the 45mm, 165mm and 200mm at some point too. I'll be shooting mostly architecture, landscape and nature shots with the odd portrait. All this kit weighs a fair bit, and I'd like to get a tripod to go with it. The question is will the Manfrotto Carbon Fibre tripod be too light for the 67II? Is there a decent alternative that won't break my back when I pack the whole lot into a Lowepro backpack? Thanks! Rich |
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Richard Parker wrote:
Hi all, I've just acquired a Pentax 67II with the 90mm lens. I'm going to be looking for the 45mm, 165mm and 200mm at some point too. I'll be shooting mostly architecture, landscape and nature shots with the odd portrait. All this kit weighs a fair bit, and I'd like to get a tripod to go with it. The question is will the Manfrotto Carbon Fibre tripod be too light for the 67II? Is there a decent alternative that won't break my back when I pack the whole lot into a Lowepro backpack? Thanks! Rich I got the Manfrotto carbon fiber tripod and it works quite fine in general, no problems. I use it with my Mamiya RZ 67 Pro II but for Tele work, it is not the most stable one in my opinion. For such a purpose and for my other work ( with large format ) I use a wooden tripdo, the Berlebach Report 8043 - yes it is heaver but it is rock solid... With 200mm on the P67 you should be still fine in most cases with the carbon tripod but when it is windy ( like often here in Colorado's High Country ), the camera is not really rock solid stable on it anymore. Rdgs George |
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"Richard Parker" wrote in message
oups.com... Hi all, I've just acquired a Pentax 67II with the 90mm lens. I'm going to be looking for the 45mm, 165mm and 200mm at some point too. I'll be shooting mostly architecture, landscape and nature shots with the odd portrait. All this kit weighs a fair bit, and I'd like to get a tripod to go with it. The question is will the Manfrotto Carbon Fibre tripod be too light for the 67II? Is there a decent alternative that won't break my back when I pack the whole lot into a Lowepro backpack? I don't use a Pentax 67, but can tell you what I found with my 6x6 SLR system, which _presumably_ has a bit less mirror slap and a bit less shutter vibration. I have a number of tripods, but basically three that see most of the outdoor work. A Manfrotto carbon fibre 440, a Gitzo three series carbon fibre, and a big Gitzo five series aluminium. The Manfrotto almost always has a Kirk BH-1 head on it, and the two Gitzi get a variety of heads, but in the field most often it's a Gitzo levelling base with an Arca-Swiss B1 on it. The Manfrotto is a good tripod for 35mm, though not with lenses over 300mm or in wind. I very seldom use it for 6x6, and when I do I don't feel as secure as I'd like to. Basically, this is my travelling light tripod, and it is very good in that role - though the leg angle locks are a terrible design. It does get me pictures in places and at times when I couldn't otherwise because a bigger / heavier tripod simply couldn't have come with me. The three series Gitzo CF is a rock solid tripod for 35mm. I'm happy with it for 6x6, though maybe the 500mm lens is too much for it. This is my most used tripod, surprisingly light for its solidity and very reassuring in use. The five series weighs a ton, and feels like it could support it too. Mostly I use this only with very long lenses or - my real reason for having it at all - when I need a lot of extra height. I suppose I could use it as a tepee frame too... If you are looking at a Manfrotto of the same type as mine - the 4xx series - then personally I wouldn't think it would be sufficient for a 6x7 SLR unless you were only going to be using shorter lenses, could take your time over everything, and would never be working exposed to the wind. If they now make a heavier series (I've had mine for some time) then maybe these comments don't apply. Assuming we are talking about the same 'pod, I'd say definitely get the Gitzo - but maybe later get the Manfrotto too for those times when you are walking a really long way, or flying. YMMV, of course... Peter |
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Everyone has their favorites when it comes to tripods and heads so you'll
probably get many suggestions. FWIW, I used to use my Pentax 67 system a lot for architecture and landscape. I used two tripods and two heads with it. For everything except architecture I used a Bogen 3221 tripod with an Arca Swiss B1 ball head. For architecture I used a Gitzo 1325 carbon fiber tripod with a Bogen geared head. I ldon't like a ball head for architecture because of the difficulty of making an adjustment in one direction without also making an unwanted change in another with a camera as heavy as the 67. If I was willing to change heads around all the time I could use both the geared head and the ball head on the 3221 but I don't like doing that, plus I use the Gitzo tripod and geared head with my large format system so it does double duty. I'm not a believer in the theory that a heavy camera requires a heavy tripod. Both the 3221 and the 1325 are fairly light tripods and they do just fine with the Pentax 67 system and with my 4x5 system (Linhof Master Technika, which with lens weighs around 7 lbs). "Richard Parker" wrote in message oups.com... Hi all, I've just acquired a Pentax 67II with the 90mm lens. I'm going to be looking for the 45mm, 165mm and 200mm at some point too. I'll be shooting mostly architecture, landscape and nature shots with the odd portrait. All this kit weighs a fair bit, and I'd like to get a tripod to go with it. The question is will the Manfrotto Carbon Fibre tripod be too light for the 67II? Is there a decent alternative that won't break my back when I pack the whole lot into a Lowepro backpack? Thanks! Rich |
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"Shelley" wrote in message
news:25sXd.81804$wc.40866@trnddc07... [SNIP] I ldon't like a ball head for architecture because of the difficulty of making an adjustment in one direction without also making an unwanted change in another with a camera as heavy as the 67. Likewise - I like the compactness of a ball when tramping across fields and hills, but a P&T or a geared head seems more or less essential for architecture. Wish I could afford an Arca-Swiss C1! If I was willing to change heads around all the time I could use both the geared head and the ball head on the 3221 but I don't like doing that, plus I use the Gitzo tripod and geared head with my large format system so it does double duty. This is where I like the Gitzo 'Systematic' tripods. It is very quick to change between a flat plate, column (geared or otherwise) or a levelling base. Better still, the levelling base fits both series three and five tripods (I have one of each, a 1325 and a 1504). So the levelling base with my Arca ballhead on it can get swapped between these two tripods easily, and when I want to do architectural work it comes out and a geared column with a heavy P&T head (usually) on it goes in. If you have a spare head and put it on either the levelling base or one of the flat plates you could try that with your 1325. Actually, that levelling base has a lever on it that makes changing heads much faster than it is otherwise even if you don't have a different base to swap in. I use this sometimes when I'm teaching: the ballhead comes off and a flat plate goes on and gets levelled and that's the stand for my slide projector sorted. I'm not a believer in the theory that a heavy camera requires a heavy tripod. Both the 3221 and the 1325 are fairly light tripods and they do just fine with the Pentax 67 system and with my 4x5 system (Linhof Master Technika, which with lens weighs around 7 lbs). Agreed - my (aluminium) 1504 is a bit more rigid than the much lighter 1325 (carbon fibre), but that's because it's a much bigger 'pod with thicker leg cross sections more than because of its mass per se. Sure mass affects damping, but one can add mass, it doesn't need to be 'inside' the pod. For any exposure of less than about 1/15 I add my own mass anyway - and there's no way I'd want to carry a 'pod that weighs as much as I do! Peter |
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