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Be careful about photographing your kids!
"Alan Browne" "Alan writes:
You're perverting the message to your conclusion, I merely quoted the opinion that k-p users have a need for real contact. Which is not surprising, but it doesn't mean that the need from contact came from the use of k-p. It might as well be the other way around. Why would people want to use k-p if they have no attraction to underage kids in the first place? I know I don't. It may even be the case that some people who have a need for real contact are able to control that need by using k-p instead. -- -asbjxrn |
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Alan Browne wrote:
Francis A. Miniter wrote: all the reasonable and good stuff snipped As for what people see, police investigators and coroners see things far, far worse than the average movie viewer will ever see. Now that is something to make one queasy. Does this make them evil? We presume not. So the point cannot be that viewing something makes one a worse human being. To 'normal' people, no. But to someone with a seed of obsession, perversion or sickness..., yes, ...it is fuel. That is why the obsessed, perverted and sick SEEK out this material. And that leads to victimization. Good comment. Francis A. Miniter |
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"George Kerby" wrote in message ... On 10/16/03 7:19 PM, in article dAGjb.571828$Oz4.540952@rwcrnsc54, "William Graham" wrote: "George Kerby" wrote in message news:BBB498A1.1EE1B% Well, aren't you clever! I bet you drive through EZ Tag toll booths as well... I don't know what, "EZ Tag toll booths are", but if they are a legitimate way to pay for the roads, I wouldn't try to cheat them.....I only cheat the government out of the money that they have already cheated me out of.....I believe that everyone should pay their fair share of government expenses. If Bill Gates doesn't get any more fire and police, and Army protection from the government than I do, then he shouldn't have to pay any more for it than I do......Why is it that I can kill myself with candy bars (I am a diabetic) and not have to pay anything for it, but if you smoke cigarettes, you have to pay $3.00 a pack for them, when any tobacco farmer will tell you that they should only cost about 60 cents a pack, even if they have to be shipped all the way to Mazatlan, Mexico and sold there at retail? Why do you let your government screw other people? - Don't you ever stop to think that some day in the future, they may get around to screwing you? EZ Tags lanes are those you drive through and a transmiter in the car that you prepay and it automatically deducts from your account with each pass. For this reason, that particular lane has no crossbar and traffic flows without much slowdown. Violators will pass through these lanes even though they have not paid anything because they know they can. Therefore, security cameras were set up that record the offender's tag - they photograph each vehicle that passes through. Those that do not have an account are sent bills and threats of legal action by the state of Texas if not corrected. So, in response, a lot of violators started to put special covers over the tags. These covers appear to be nothing to the eye but the recording camera is "blinded" by the special materials used (polarizer?). So the pinheads in the State Legislature got one thing passed before fleeing to beautiful downtown Ardmore, OK this Spring: ANYTHING that covers ANY part of the tag is now ILLEGAL here. Immediately millions of Texas motorists were in violation of the law because most every dealership puts spme sort of advertising on the tag frame. Guess I got long winded above. Anyway, I KNOW that I'm being screwed by SOME form of government at ANY time. VOTE LIBERTARIAN! Alas, the candidates are generally pretty awful. The one from this state who ran for president in '92 was a perfect example... sigh EZ Tags sounds like something I would embrace and not try to cheat....A long time ago I suggested something like this for the SF-Oakland Bay bridge toll booths. I suggested a bar-code sticker on the drivers side door that could be read by a laser scanner and you would be billed by mail every month or two for what you owed in tolls....This way, you wouldn't need to stop and they wouldn't need all those toll takers and the traffic flow would be a lot smoother. You would slide through just like a box of Wheaties slides through the scanner at a supermarket....... |
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"Alan Browne" "Alan wrote in message ... William Graham wrote: There are a lot of people who collect automobile license plates.....These are plates that are removed by the junkyard operators from cars that have been wrecked or abandonded, or sold for parts.....You can find these license plates in second hand stores, or garage sales, or junk stores....I have found a set in the past that were still "good" for another 6 months.....IOW, the little red sticker on the lower left corner still had 6 months to go before it expired. And, both the front and the rear plate were available. But, in any case, I have many sets of these plates, most of which I paid less than $5.00 a set for, and I can put them on my car when I park, so the parking tickets that I get are worthless....When the city tries to collect on them, they do not have a valid address for me....The plates in their So, you defent the US Constitution, but you blatently flout the law. Amazing. Did it occur to you that somebody might forward your post to the city and to the state DMV? Somebody? - Hell, I have written many a letter to these organizations myself....And newspapers......Signed and dated, too......I have been bitching about the impropriety of parking tickets for years.....Also, the unfairness of the property taxes on automobiles that the DMV collects....If your hobby is collecting Haaselblads, you could easily have $50,000 worth of cameras and lenses, but no cop comes pounding on your door every year and says, "Hey, buddy! - Where are your camera tags? - Here's a ticket for operating your camera without a license..." But if your hobby is cars and/or motorcycles, and you have $50,000 worth of those, you have to pay a property tax every year that in California, at least, will be over $1000...Where is the justice in that? Do the car collectors get any more government services than the camera collectors? - I think not....They just collect the money from the car collectors because they can......For the same reason that Hillary climbed mountains...."Just because it's there." |
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"Asbjørn Bjørnstad" wrote in message ... "Alan Browne" "Alan writes: You're perverting the message to your conclusion, I merely quoted the opinion that k-p users have a need for real contact. Which is not surprising, but it doesn't mean that the need from contact came from the use of k-p. It might as well be the other way around. Why would people want to use k-p if they have no attraction to underage kids in the first place? I know I don't. It may even be the case that some people who have a need for real contact are able to control that need by using k-p instead. -- -asbjxrn Yes....By that same reasoning, we should outlaw Playboy magazine, because it promotes rape.....Restrict the freedoms of everyone, including the innocent, in order protect society from, and to punish the guilty...... |
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Alan Browne writes:
To me, the use of software that creates such images is just as dangerous as the circulation of kp in circulation and being added to by the hour. Neither is particularly dangerous. The only danger is in the production of actual child pornography, because it often unfairly exploits and traumatizes children. ... however, there is thought in the police community that people who possess k-p, commit the crimes. The police don't make the laws, they just enforce them. Sometimes they forget that. You might not accept the following notion, but the existence of k-p is to the pedophile a stamp of approval. His inhibitions are lowered. He then needs to satisfy his needs. Synthetic k-p will be the same. You seem to know a lot about the thought patterns of pedophiles. Where did you acquire this familiarity? Go talk to the parents of one of the 1/100,000 that you let go up there. Better still, talk to the parents of the 99,999/100,000 that have never had any problem. That is much more representative than your suggestion. ... there are child abductions everywhere in the world, and not all of them by divorced parents ... Only about 99% of them are by parents. Other types of abductions in the United States do not exceed double-digit figures for the entire country, IIRC, despite the media circus that is constructed around them when they occur. ... and recently there has been a rash of it happening in Montreal. A "rash"? How many cases? My son never reacted adversely to the advice. He talks to strangers as things go. But he would never accept anything from one, get in their car or enter their home. Even one in a police uniform? You are correct about people the child knows. Oddly, a child who has never known abuse in the home, is that much more unwary of the danger outside the home. Why is that odd? -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Lionel writes:
Doesn't anyone in the USA /care/ that their 'freedoms' are being taken away from them? The majority of Americans have never lived without freedoms, and don't realize that they can be lost and never regained. That's why they are willing to throw them away in exchange for a promise of illusory security. Most democracies follow this path eventually, ultimately voting themselves out of existence and returning to dictatorship. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Alan Browne writes:
That is why the obsessed, perverted and sick SEEK out this material. And that leads to victimization. Show cause and effect. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Gregory W. Blank writes:
I did not think you had proof, now your just confirming it. Thanks for proving the point. You haven't answered my question: What correlation is there between "references" (whatever that means) and truth? You must have had something in mind upon which to base your statements. What was that basis? -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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William Graham writes:
Yes....Besides, one would (hopefully) cook them at least to medium rare........ I do not share your interest in cannibalism, so I wouldn't know. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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