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  #91  
Old September 25th 17, 04:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital, alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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On Sep 25, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 9/24/2017 4:46 PM, Savageduck wrote:

snip

...and as I said, producing panoramas is not where the bulk of my travel
photography lies.


Me neither. But every so often, I see an opportunity for a pano. (Three
shot vertical.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8w53i3y3m9cv8m/Dale%20Chihuly1.jpg?dl=0

Which ended up like this.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2quthg7matfxs8/Boron%20Botanical1filtered.jpg?dl=0


....er, OK.

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  #92  
Old September 25th 17, 05:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 2017-09-24 18:50, Davoud wrote:
Davoud:
Stop me if you've heard this one...


Alan Browne:
What I do not support is rental s/w. That's Adobe's new path. If I
were a full time photographer, then I'd go for it. But "renting"
spinning s/w that I don't use for stretches is a stretch.


I never grasped why persons who lease houses and automobiles, who pay
for utilities by the month, who belong to membership clubs, who
subscribe to newspapers or magazines... would draw the line at
subscribing to world-class software.


I own my house, but did rent an appartment or two in my salad days. Did
not resent the rent as I lived there most days of the month.

I own my cars - but did not resent making payments monthly as I used
said cars many times per month while paying for them.

I pay electricity by the month. But I use it nearly 24 hours per day.

I subscribe to one magazine. And I read it every month from cover to cover.

etc.

But s/w that I don't use for long stretches (life and business get in
the way of pursuits like photography, alas) I don't want to be "renting".

So as I clearly said above, if the photography were full time, then I'd
happily embark.

That one doesn't need it is an incontestable reason, however. Here's
the thing, though: there is no minimum subscription period for Adobe
CC, including the $10 photography plan. A friend, an accomplished
photographer, activates his photography plan for about two months each
year after big photo safaris.


Good idea. I'll look into it next round. Fall is coming ...

But I'll also be looking into non-Adobe products. One I've been using
is Davinci Resolve as an editing tool (video). While its strong suit is
not editing per se, it is more than adequate. And free for non
professional use.
  #93  
Old September 25th 17, 09:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:14:49 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not time it
to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.

then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?


Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.


that doesn't answer the question.


It's on the motherboard.

While LR is on the SSD the images and the catalog are on spinning
rust.

Also, I have just discovered that using the GPU for processing was not
turned on. Turning that on reduced the start up to about 7 seconds.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #94  
Old September 26th 17, 01:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not time it
to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.

then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?

Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.


that doesn't answer the question.


It's on the motherboard.


no it isn't.

your ssd is a separate and removable device connected to the logic
board, which means it's not as fast as it could be if it actually was
part of the logicboard, as it is on some macs.

While LR is on the SSD the images and the catalog are on spinning
rust.


the catalog should also be on the ssd.

ideally, the images you're currently working on should also be on ssd
but it's ok if they're not.

Also, I have just discovered that using the GPU for processing was not
turned on. Turning that on reduced the start up to about 7 seconds.


enabling the gpu shouldn't affect launch time, but 7 seconds is still
very slow.

is that a cold launch or a hot launch?

a hot launch will be much faster and that's probably the difference
you're seeing. reboot the computer so that it's a cold launch both
times and then compare.
  #95  
Old September 26th 17, 02:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:21:26 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not time it
to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.

then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?

Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.

that doesn't answer the question.


It's on the motherboard.


no it isn't.


No doubt you will now quibble about what you understood 'by on the
mother board'. The Samsung SSD "cutting-edge V-NAND-based NVMe SSD
supports PCI Express** Gen 3 x4" is mounted on the motherboard. I am
surprised that you should even think of USB 2 in that context.

your ssd is a separate and removable device connected to the logic
board, which means it's not as fast as it could be if it actually was
part of the logicboard, as it is on some macs.


They still have to finish up with a PCI3x4 interface or similar at the
SSD.

While LR is on the SSD the images and the catalog are on spinning
rust.


the catalog should also be on the ssd.


I see the point but I'm not concerned to screw the last bit of
performance out of catalog read/writes.

ideally, the images you're currently working on should also be on ssd
but it's ok if they're not.



Also, I have just discovered that using the GPU for processing was not
turned on. Turning that on reduced the start up to about 7 seconds.


enabling the gpu shouldn't affect launch time, but 7 seconds is still
very slow.

is that a cold launch or a hot launch?

a hot launch will be much faster and that's probably the difference
you're seeing. reboot the computer so that it's a cold launch both
times and then compare.


It seems to be a cold launch.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #96  
Old September 26th 17, 02:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not
time it to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.

then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?

Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.

that doesn't answer the question.

It's on the motherboard.


no it isn't.


No doubt you will now quibble about what you understood 'by on the
mother board'.


you're not one to talk about quibbling.

The Samsung SSD "cutting-edge V-NAND-based NVMe SSD
supports PCI Express** Gen 3 x4" is mounted on the motherboard.


mounted on doesn't mean it's part of.

the optical drive and hard drive (now an ssd) in my old macbook are
mounted on the logicboard (with screws), so by your definition, they
are part of the logicboard. they are not.

I am
surprised that you should even think of USB 2 in that context.


you said it took 13 seconds to launch lightroom from an ssd.

that's slow as **** and not consistent with ssd performance.

usb 2 would be an explanation for such abysmal speeds, which is why i
asked.

just for kicks, i launched photoshop cs2 on a 12 year old powerpc g4
mac mini which has a 100 mbit parallel ata interface (which even when
new was not the fastest mac), and it took about 20 seconds for cold
launch and 10 seconds for hot launch.

if you're seeing 13 second launch times with an ssd in a modern (i.e.,
fast) computer, something is very, very wrong. return it for a refund
if it's not too late.

your ssd is a separate and removable device connected to the logic
board, which means it's not as fast as it could be if it actually was
part of the logicboard, as it is on some macs.


They still have to finish up with a PCI3x4 interface or similar at the
SSD.


by integrating the ssd, it can be faster, and benchmarks show that to
be the case.

While LR is on the SSD the images and the catalog are on spinning
rust.


the catalog should also be on the ssd.


I see the point but I'm not concerned to screw the last bit of
performance out of catalog read/writes.


nor should you bother, because you have far bigger problems to resolve
regarding ssd performance.



Also, I have just discovered that using the GPU for processing was not
turned on. Turning that on reduced the start up to about 7 seconds.


enabling the gpu shouldn't affect launch time, but 7 seconds is still
very slow.

is that a cold launch or a hot launch?

a hot launch will be much faster and that's probably the difference
you're seeing. reboot the computer so that it's a cold launch both
times and then compare.


It seems to be a cold launch.


how do you know what has and has not been cached?
  #97  
Old September 26th 17, 03:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:39:53 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not
time it to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.

then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?

Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.

that doesn't answer the question.

It's on the motherboard.

no it isn't.


No doubt you will now quibble about what you understood 'by on the
mother board'.


you're not one to talk about quibbling.

The Samsung SSD "cutting-edge V-NAND-based NVMe SSD
supports PCI Express** Gen 3 x4" is mounted on the motherboard.


mounted on doesn't mean it's part of.

the optical drive and hard drive (now an ssd) in my old macbook are
mounted on the logicboard (with screws), so by your definition, they
are part of the logicboard. they are not.

I am
surprised that you should even think of USB 2 in that context.


you said it took 13 seconds to launch lightroom from an ssd.

that's slow as **** and not consistent with ssd performance.

usb 2 would be an explanation for such abysmal speeds, which is why i
asked.

just for kicks, i launched photoshop cs2 on a 12 year old powerpc g4
mac mini which has a 100 mbit parallel ata interface (which even when
new was not the fastest mac), and it took about 20 seconds for cold
launch and 10 seconds for hot launch.

if you're seeing 13 second launch times with an ssd in a modern (i.e.,
fast) computer, something is very, very wrong. return it for a refund
if it's not too late.

your ssd is a separate and removable device connected to the logic
board, which means it's not as fast as it could be if it actually was
part of the logicboard, as it is on some macs.


They still have to finish up with a PCI3x4 interface or similar at the
SSD.


by integrating the ssd, it can be faster, and benchmarks show that to
be the case.

While LR is on the SSD the images and the catalog are on spinning
rust.

the catalog should also be on the ssd.


I see the point but I'm not concerned to screw the last bit of
performance out of catalog read/writes.


nor should you bother, because you have far bigger problems to resolve
regarding ssd performance.



Also, I have just discovered that using the GPU for processing was not
turned on. Turning that on reduced the start up to about 7 seconds.

enabling the gpu shouldn't affect launch time, but 7 seconds is still
very slow.

is that a cold launch or a hot launch?

a hot launch will be much faster and that's probably the difference
you're seeing. reboot the computer so that it's a cold launch both
times and then compare.


It seems to be a cold launch.


how do you know what has and has not been cached?


I don't know. Nor am I concerned.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #98  
Old September 26th 17, 04:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 25/09/2017 08:21, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:13:11 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On my Mac, not the iPad, Lightroom was not running, so;
Step #1: Open Lightroom: 27.58 seconds

yikes. you have a very slow hard drive.

for me, it's about 4 seconds cold launch from an ssd. i did not time it
to 100th second accuracy, though.

I've got an SSD and from the first click to being ready to edit was
about 13 seconds.


then something is *very* wrong.

is it connected via usb 2?


Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB [Hard drive] (512.11 GB) -- drive 1, s/n
0025_3856_61B0_14D5.


I'd check for a virus/malware. A friend brought round a similarly speced
almost new PC, and it was taking minutes to boot, 100% disk access most
of the time once booted, very slow. Task manager showed some suspicious
processes (from a google search and disk/processor hogging) connected
with Firefox add-ins.

I couldn't be certain that malware was the cause of the slow machine,
but if it were mine I'd start by cleaning it up.

--
Cheers, Rob
 




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