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Old October 12th 04, 09:27 PM
Ken Tough
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Charlie Self wrote:

It's hard to recall now, but Tricky Dicky had such a lock on people's
minds back then that he had NO worries at all about being elected. Except those
manufactured by his own paranoid fantasies.


No, it's very easy for me to recall. Deja vu, almost.

His approval rating soared because he appeared to be doing something to end the
Vietnam War. And, of course, he found the solution and the perfect exit
strategy. Declare yourself the winner and leave.

And then the proof built up and he left.


Whoa, did someone just download to the matrix or something?

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Old October 13th 04, 04:07 AM
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It's hard to recall now, but Tricky Dicky had such a lock on people's
minds back then that he had NO worries at all about being elected. Except

those
manufactured by his own paranoid fantasies.



If we had the Powershot G5 back then, TD would be locked onto our CF cards -
and burnt to CDR, which may have faded away by now if we did not keep
recopying - except those manufactured by his polaroid. Perhaps we would
have developed a more permanent storage solution by now.

This is a digital photography group people!!!


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Old October 13th 04, 02:15 PM
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"Steven M. Scharf" wrote in news:GX2bd.2853
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Look at the price of gasoline at the
end of the Clinton administration and now. It isn't an issue of supply,
it's an issue of the falling value of the dollar and of speculation
in oil futures.


You don't think the dramatically increased demand from China has anything
to do with the price increases? The dollar is at .81 Euro, but gasoline
is up more than 20%... Speculation can only work to smooth out prices --
when speculators buy high and sell low they go bankrupt.

Falling dollar means we will export more and import less -- most people
consider those good things. The only potential downside is that it makes
investments in US securities less attractive which can drive up interest
rates.

I agree with you that government spending in general is bad and that it
should be cut wherever possible -- less taxation is always preferable,
and lower deficits require less foreign investment. The deficit, while
high in absolute terms, is actually "typical" from a % of GDP standpoint.

And yeah, I did take a few too many courses in economics.

RPD input: Falling dollar means higher digital camera prices and higher
media prices.

Bob

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Old October 14th 04, 01:36 PM
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"Gene Palmiter" wrote in
news:5Zrbd.289$4V3.95@trndny01:

Was any of the Saudis in this discussion a Bin Laden? Almost
certainly. Did Bush know that 911 was coming. If he didn't it was
intentional.



Everyone in the world should have seen that something was coming. Maybe not
planes into the WTC specifically, but something.

Tom Clancy wrote about using a fueled 747 to attack the Capitol building in
a novel. "They" had been killing "us" at every opportunity and without
repercussions, including trying to blow up the WTC.

And it started long before Bush took office.

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Old October 14th 04, 01:42 PM
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Ken Tough wrote in
news
Anyway, price at the pump is governed by
sweet crude, and the fact that gas consumption is exponentially
escalating [from huger and huger vehicles],


Fuel efficiency isn't exponentially worse in "huger" vehicles. MPG would
need to drop from 20 to 2 to create exponential growth. Look to another
cause. Like the exponential growth of fuel usage in China.

You know a lot of the reason for the demand for SUVs can be traced to fuel
efficiency standards. You used to be able to buy a station wagon that could
tow a trailer, but with the standards you couldn't, so the industry
responded by making station wagons out of trucks.

Bob

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Old October 14th 04, 01:53 PM
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"bob" wrote in message
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"Gene Palmiter" wrote in
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Was any of the Saudis in this discussion a Bin Laden? Almost
certainly. Did Bush know that 911 was coming. If he didn't it was
intentional.



Everyone in the world should have seen that something was coming. Maybe

not
planes into the WTC specifically, but something.

Tom Clancy wrote about using a fueled 747 to attack the Capitol building

in
a novel. "They" had been killing "us" at every opportunity and without
repercussions, including trying to blow up the WTC.

And it started long before Bush took office.

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When the administration claims the WTC attacks of 911 was
unimaginable...well....the imagining part was already done by Clancy. It was
just one of the warnings. Some in the FBI were worried about Saudi pilots
who didn't want to learn to land. There will be terrorists attacks. If
there are enough ****ed off people in the country some will find a way to
express themselves. But this one? This mode of attack? It could have been
prevented by locking the cabin doors! You can't open that with box cutter.


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Old October 14th 04, 04:57 PM
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bob writes:

You know a lot of the reason for the demand for SUVs can be traced to fuel
efficiency standards. You used to be able to buy a station wagon that could
tow a trailer, but with the standards you couldn't, so the industry
responded by making station wagons out of trucks.


That may be the reason for some SUV sales. But the majority of SUVs I
see do not have a hitch, so they haven't been used to tow anything.
They aren't dirty, so they haven't been used off-road recently. They
don't have a lot of people in them, so they're not a replacement for a
minivan. For the most part, they have just one person inside, and are
used for urban driving just like any car. They're just a big, heavy,
expensive car that doesn't have to meet the same standards.

Dave
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Old October 14th 04, 04:57 PM
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bob writes:

You know a lot of the reason for the demand for SUVs can be traced to fuel
efficiency standards. You used to be able to buy a station wagon that could
tow a trailer, but with the standards you couldn't, so the industry
responded by making station wagons out of trucks.


That may be the reason for some SUV sales. But the majority of SUVs I
see do not have a hitch, so they haven't been used to tow anything.
They aren't dirty, so they haven't been used off-road recently. They
don't have a lot of people in them, so they're not a replacement for a
minivan. For the most part, they have just one person inside, and are
used for urban driving just like any car. They're just a big, heavy,
expensive car that doesn't have to meet the same standards.

Dave
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Old October 14th 04, 04:59 PM
Ron Hunter
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bob wrote:
"Gene Palmiter" wrote in
news:5Zrbd.289$4V3.95@trndny01:


Was any of the Saudis in this discussion a Bin Laden? Almost
certainly. Did Bush know that 911 was coming. If he didn't it was
intentional.




Everyone in the world should have seen that something was coming. Maybe not
planes into the WTC specifically, but something.

Tom Clancy wrote about using a fueled 747 to attack the Capitol building in
a novel. "They" had been killing "us" at every opportunity and without
repercussions, including trying to blow up the WTC.

And it started long before Bush took office.

As did Clive Cussler and Dan Brown, if I recall correctly. It still
left our national leadership aghast. Now they believe, or at least ONE
candidate for president does.
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Old October 14th 04, 07:47 PM
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Dave Martindale wrote:
bob writes:


You know a lot of the reason for the demand for SUVs can be traced to fuel
efficiency standards. You used to be able to buy a station wagon that could
tow a trailer, but with the standards you couldn't, so the industry
responded by making station wagons out of trucks.



That may be the reason for some SUV sales. But the majority of SUVs I
see do not have a hitch, so they haven't been used to tow anything.
They aren't dirty, so they haven't been used off-road recently. They
don't have a lot of people in them, so they're not a replacement for a
minivan. For the most part, they have just one person inside, and are
used for urban driving just like any car. They're just a big, heavy,
expensive car that doesn't have to meet the same standards.

Dave


They are also a solution for those parents with 2 or more small
children/infants. WE mandated this when child safety seats were
required. Try to get a family of 5 in a typical 'family car', with a
booster seat, and an infant seat.
 




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