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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the
past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... |
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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:56:00 -0400, "Bowser" wrote:
How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... I'm starting to see a clear pattern here. They are just as uncreative with their "mandates" as they are with their photography. It's starting to make sense, why their beginner's snapshots are so pathetically boring. They themselves are boring and common. This is why none of their photography will ever be worth seeing. Just as an author cannot write about life unless he's lived it, a "photographer" will never capture worthwhile images unless he's truly experienced and seen life. Their minds and visions are just as empty and pointless as their basement-lived lives. Clearly reflected in their SI snapshots. Here's a few very simple ones that none of you have tried yet, in any of your photography: Space Contrasts Compliments Topics that should be in any Photography 101 course. Here's a few other simple ones, for simple minds: Fences Minimalism Fire Pointillism Hope/Hopelessness Survival Glass Houses Steps Camouflage Vertical/Horizontal Power Freedom Suffer Evolution Stagnant Dynamic Symmetry Limits Beginnings Rush Trapped Impact .... That should keep you busy for two more years. I could go on all day, all week, all lifelong, suggesting worthwhile topics. That's what a creative mind does, that's why a creative mind can do exceptional photography. No matter what camera is in the hands of that mind, no matter what he happens to be seeing at that moment in time. "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought." - Albert von Szent-Gyorgyi. It is only with a creative and discovering mind will you ever be a worthwhile photographer. You'll never be able to buy a camera with those features included, no matter how much money that you throw at it. Much to your beginner's dismay. But since I have no intention of ever entering any photos to entertain these snapshooting beginners, nor let them learn from me for free, any further input is just casting more pearls before swine. As they also say, you can't make a silk-purse out of a sow's ear. Banal but true. There you go, one more free topic, Pearls Before Swine. |
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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
Photography 101 wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:56:00 -0400, "Bowser" wrote: How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... And begin it did: I'm starting to see a clear pattern here. They are just as uncreative with their "mandates" as they are with their photography. It's starting to make sense, why their beginner's snapshots are so pathetically boring. They themselves are boring and common. This is why none of their photography will ever be worth seeing. Just as an author cannot write about life unless he's lived it, a "photographer" will never capture worthwhile images unless he's truly experienced and seen life. Their minds and visions are just as empty and pointless as their basement-lived lives. Clearly reflected in their SI snapshots. Here's a few very simple ones that none of you have tried yet, in any of your photography: Space Contrasts Compliments --- is that the word she meant to use? -- Frank ess |
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Mandate Suggestion
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Annika1980
wrote: On Sep 10, 10:56*am, "Bowser" wrote: How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... I like it! Of course I'm ****ed that I didn't think of it. Now Cooper will probably come in and say that we can't do it because they used that mandate in April at the Kissimmee Garden Club's monthly show & tell. That's exactly what I proposed in my earlier post on this. I said "favorite", not "best", because "best" leaves a person too vulnerable to criticism. Sometimes my favorite shots are not what I would call my best shots. Here's a favorite of mine from a few months ago. Not a technically great shot, though. I call it "Portrait of Alan Browne" in honor of his recent posting: http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...per213/pig.jpg -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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Mandate Suggestion
On 2009-09-10 13:53:00 -0700, tony cooper said:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Annika1980 wrote: On Sep 10, 10:56*am, "Bowser" wrote: How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... I like it! Of course I'm ****ed that I didn't think of it. Now Cooper will probably come in and say that we can't do it because they used that mandate in April at the Kissimmee Garden Club's monthly show & tell. That's exactly what I proposed in my earlier post on this. I said "favorite", not "best", because "best" leaves a person too vulnerable to criticism. Sometimes my favorite shots are not what I would call my best shots. Here's a favorite of mine from a few months ago. Not a technically great shot, though. I call it "Portrait of Alan Browne" in honor of his recent posting: http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...per213/pig.jpg I have to agree with Tony here, "Favorite" is less likely to draw venomous, snide criticism than "Best." That way any criticism is more likely to be constructive and useful to all. Some notes on why the submission is the contributor's "favorite" may also help the viewer to gain that perspective. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
"Bowser" wrote in message
. com... How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... Not a whine at all but I would prefer to see a more "guided" or restrictive mandate than this. One of the things I like about shooting to a mandate is the fact that I'm forced to think creatively about the title. Much of the effort is in coming up with an approach or an idea which I believe hits the mandate from an oblique angle, viz: Not something "interesting" in and of itself put something which kind of represents "interesting" in a visual way to the viewer, something which might make a viewer think the concept "interesting" when they see it. At one level "best of the month" is simply saying "shoot anything"... mind you now I think about it some more maybe there's some scope to play around with this... "best of" doesn't need to mean "best photo" after all... As an aside when I set out to shoot for "interesting" I had in mind a still-life arrangement of very dull and dusty tomes, maybe with subdued saturation, and one child's book in full colour. To me that represented "interesting" rather than precisely being interesting itself if you see what I mean. The shot I ended up with came about as I was raiding the shelves and had the idea that a child reaching for a book from the very top shelf implied that the child found that book interesting enough to make the effort to get it. I guess that's it for me, photography (and art generally) is about trying to get the audience to think in a certain way, to suggest ideas and concepts. Anyway, I'd still rather see mandates designed to appeal to the actual contributors to the SI rather than those who appear to have very little interest in photography and who are very unlikely to contribute whatever the mandate. |
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"Calvin Sambrook" wrote in message ... "Bowser" wrote in message . com... How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... Not a whine at all but I would prefer to see a more "guided" or restrictive mandate than this. One of the things I like about shooting to a mandate is the fact that I'm forced to think creatively about the title. Much of the effort is in coming up with an approach or an idea which I believe hits the mandate from an oblique angle, viz: Not something "interesting" in and of itself put something which kind of represents "interesting" in a visual way to the viewer, something which might make a viewer think the concept "interesting" when they see it. At one level "best of the month" is simply saying "shoot anything"... mind you now I think about it some more maybe there's some scope to play around with this... "best of" doesn't need to mean "best photo" after all... As an aside when I set out to shoot for "interesting" I had in mind a still-life arrangement of very dull and dusty tomes, maybe with subdued saturation, and one child's book in full colour. To me that represented "interesting" rather than precisely being interesting itself if you see what I mean. The shot I ended up with came about as I was raiding the shelves and had the idea that a child reaching for a book from the very top shelf implied that the child found that book interesting enough to make the effort to get it. I guess that's it for me, photography (and art generally) is about trying to get the audience to think in a certain way, to suggest ideas and concepts. Anyway, I'd still rather see mandates designed to appeal to the actual contributors to the SI rather than those who appear to have very little interest in photography and who are very unlikely to contribute whatever the mandate. I agree, but every so often I think we should open it up a little. We haven't had a very loose mandate in a while. Whaddya think? "Favorite of the month"? No archive shots? |
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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
On 2009-09-10 16:38:18 -0700, "Bowser" said:
"Calvin Sambrook" wrote in message ... "Bowser" wrote in message . com... How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... Not a whine at all but I would prefer to see a more "guided" or restrictive mandate than this. One of the things I like about shooting to a mandate is the fact that I'm forced to think creatively about the title. Much of the effort is in coming up with an approach or an idea which I believe hits the mandate from an oblique angle, viz: Not something "interesting" in and of itself put something which kind of represents "interesting" in a visual way to the viewer, something which might make a viewer think the concept "interesting" when they see it. At one level "best of the month" is simply saying "shoot anything"... mind you now I think about it some more maybe there's some scope to play around with this... "best of" doesn't need to mean "best photo" after all... As an aside when I set out to shoot for "interesting" I had in mind a still-life arrangement of very dull and dusty tomes, maybe with subdued saturation, and one child's book in full colour. To me that represented "interesting" rather than precisely being interesting itself if you see what I mean. The shot I ended up with came about as I was raiding the shelves and had the idea that a child reaching for a book from the very top shelf implied that the child found that book interesting enough to make the effort to get it. I guess that's it for me, photography (and art generally) is about trying to get the audience to think in a certain way, to suggest ideas and concepts. Anyway, I'd still rather see mandates designed to appeal to the actual contributors to the SI rather than those who appear to have very little interest in photography and who are very unlikely to contribute whatever the mandate. I agree, but every so often I think we should open it up a little. We haven't had a very loose mandate in a while. Whaddya think? "Favorite of the month"? No archive shots? OK. I'm in for "Favorite of the Month" Now I know for sure I am going to be disgusted with everything I take until three days after you close it up. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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[SI] Mandate Suggestion
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:01:18 +0100, "Calvin Sambrook"
wrote: "Bowser" wrote in message .com... How about "best of the month" where you submit your best three shots of the past 30 days, no restrictions on subject matter? Only rule: no archive shots. All pics must have been taken in the 30 day period. Let the whining begin... Not a whine at all but I would prefer to see a more "guided" or restrictive mandate than this. One of the things I like about shooting to a mandate is the fact that I'm forced to think creatively about the title. I'm in total agreement with this. Working with a mandate forces me to look for things that I might not see as photographic subjects otherwise. My camera club had "triangles" as a mandate one month. Every day that I was out photographing that month I was looking at scenes and objects with an eye to triangular aspects. I still took the normal shots on these trips, but I found triangles in scenes that I wouldn't normally photograph. I ended up having to select from more than a dozen shots containing a triangle aspect. I ended up submitting: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...9_ZfpUf-XL.jpg While I did "pose" the candle holder later, I saw the triangles where I wouldn't have noticed them before. That said, I am in favor of a change to "my favorite shot of the month". If it quells some of the present bickering, and increases the participation, then the change is worthwhile. There are other venues where there's some shooting to mandate. DGrin "Challenges", for one. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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