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The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence



 
 
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Old February 28th 18, 08:50 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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By Thomas Fox-Brewster (Forbes)
Feb 26, 2018

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In what appears to be a major breakthrough for law enforcement, and a
possible privacy problem for Apple customers, a major U.S. government
contractor claims to have found a way to unlock pretty much every iPhone
on the market.

Cellebrite, a Petah Tikva, Israel-based vendor that's become the U.S.
government's company of choice when it comes to unlocking mobile
devices, is this month telling customers its engineers currently have
the ability to get around the security of devices running iOS 11. That
includes the iPhone X, a model that Forbes has learned was successfully
raided for data by the Department for Homeland Security back in November
2017, most likely with Cellebrite technology.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb.../#4ef11d00667a

FYI ...... (I didn't know either! ;-) )


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petah_...Peta_Tikwa.jpg

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Old February 28th 18, 04:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model InExistence

On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 08:50:53 +0000, David_B wrote:

By Thomas Fox-Brewster (Forbes)
Feb 26, 2018

=

In what appears to be a major breakthrough for law enforcement, and a
possible privacy problem for Apple customers, a major U.S. government
contractor claims to have found a way to unlock pretty much every iPhone
on the market.

Cellebrite, a Petah Tikva, Israel-based vendor that's become the U.S.
government's company of choice when it comes to unlocking mobile
devices, is this month telling customers its engineers currently have
the ability to get around the security of devices running iOS 11. That
includes the iPhone X, a model that Forbes has learned was successfully
raided for data by the Department for Homeland Security back in November
2017, most likely with Cellebrite technology.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb...overnment-can-

access-any-apple-iphone-cellebrite/#4ef11d00667a

FYI ...... (I didn't know either! ;-) )


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petah_...Peta_Tikwa.jpg


Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone.
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Old February 28th 18, 04:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , ray carter
wrote:

Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone.


definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even
encrypted.
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Old February 28th 18, 04:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , ray carter
wrote:

Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone.


definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even
encrypted.


But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first
place.

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Old February 28th 18, 05:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Barry Margolin wrote:


Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone.


definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even
encrypted.


But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first
place.


I agree with the sentiment to not /put/ incriminating data on a phone,
where a dumb phone will naturally contain far less automatically generating
data in the first place.

But I bring up the sentiment that anyone who thinks /any/ phone is /safe/
is a fool, because, for a criminal anyway, the biggest incrimination is
simply the ping to the cellular tower that makes a cell phone work as a
cell phone.

Those who /feel/ safer with brand X phones versus brand Y phones because
the marketing of brand X is better than brand Y, I posit, are fools,
because the weakest set of links of all cell phones are the same.
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Old February 28th 18, 06:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , ultred ragnusen
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But I bring up the sentiment that anyone who thinks /any/ phone is /safe/
is a fool, because, for a criminal anyway, the biggest incrimination is
simply the ping to the cellular tower that makes a cell phone work as a
cell phone.


that just shows that the phone was in a given location.

if the criminal leaves the phone at home, it won't put them at the
scene of the crime.

cell tower pings *won't* get access to the data *on* the phone, which
includes photos, text messages, email, calendar, notes, financial
information, social media information and much, much more.

that stuff is *extremely* valuable, not just for investigators, but
also for other criminals, who now know where you live and what your
schedule is (i.e., when to break into your house), who your kids are
and what they look like, where they go to school, etc.
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Old March 6th 18, 09:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article ,
ultred ragnusen writes:
Barry Margolin wrote:


Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone.

definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even
encrypted.


But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first
place.


I agree with the sentiment to not /put/ incriminating data on a phone,
where a dumb phone will naturally contain far less automatically generating
data in the first place.

But I bring up the sentiment that anyone who thinks /any/ phone is /safe/
is a fool, because, for a criminal anyway, the biggest incrimination is
simply the ping to the cellular tower that makes a cell phone work as a
cell phone.

Those who /feel/ safer with brand X phones versus brand Y phones because
the marketing of brand X is better than brand Y, I posit, are fools,
because the weakest set of links of all cell phones are the same.


The weakest part of any device is the wetware - the person operating it.
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Old February 28th 18, 06:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Barry Margolin:
But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first
place.


As I am not a criminal, I have no incriminating data, digital or other.

As a professional who has a deep understanding of SIGINT and
surveillance after 32 years in the business, my fear that the US
government might want to crack my iPhone ranks well below my fear that
I will be pecked to death by marauding peacocks that I disturbed while
fleeing an incoming asteroid.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/13024995215

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Old February 28th 18, 09:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Davoud wrote:

As a professional who has a deep understanding of SIGINT and
surveillance after 32 years in the business, my fear that the US
government might want to crack my iPhone ranks well below my fear that
I will be pecked to death by marauding peacocks that I disturbed while
fleeing an incoming asteroid.


I think we all have a relatively deep understanding of SIGINT where anyone
who wishes to put the bits together can piece together rather easily our
actions.

For example, let's say you're not a criminal, but that you want to run for
office, but you visited that lady of ill repute or that young man on Friday
afternoon, or even that doctor who specializes in venereal diseases last
Saturday or maybe just that you recently searched on your phone for a size
10 dress when your wife has a size 0 frame.

The point of those imaginary examples is just that there are lots of things
that aren't illegal that people do that should still be kept private from
prying eyes.
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Old March 2nd 18, 09:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
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David_B
Wed, 28 Feb 2018 08:50:53 GMT
in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

FYI ...... (I didn't know either! ;-) )


If you spent less time stalking people, you'd have time to keep
uptodate on more important matters. Such as your iphone being 0wned by
a 3rd party if some people with very deep pockets believe you have
something of value on it.


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