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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:45:41 +0200, Dallas
wrote: You sound like a redneck, Bill. He's not a redneck. He's a scared old man. William Graham is in his 70's and he thinks it's OK that as of today 1,000 American boys have died for no good reason and that the rest of the world considers the Bush Administration more of a threat to world security than terrorism. I have one question for my American friends...are you really safer today than you were a week after 9/11? If you say yes, would you say the same thing if you were to be travelling outside the country? |
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:45:41 +0200, Dallas
wrote: You sound like a redneck, Bill. He's not a redneck. He's a scared old man. William Graham is in his 70's and he thinks it's OK that as of today 1,000 American boys have died for no good reason and that the rest of the world considers the Bush Administration more of a threat to world security than terrorism. I have one question for my American friends...are you really safer today than you were a week after 9/11? If you say yes, would you say the same thing if you were to be travelling outside the country? |
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"Dallas" wrote in message news On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:37:13 -0700, Mike Henley wrote: (Annika1980) wrote in message ... What do you care why he does what he does? - Just be glad he did it! So I can go kill all the bad guys now? When is Bush planning on invading some of the countries like Sudan where people are slaughtered every day? Oh he isn't? Why not? Some people are increasingly suspicious of this Sudan crisis, in the sense of it being a manufactured one. I'm not necessarily a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not naiive either. The mercenaries arrested in South Africa were also reported to have interest in extractive industries in Western Suda, where the trouble is happening now. There certainly is clear precedent in the area. http://tinyurl.com/7248f Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... |
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"Dallas" wrote in message news On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:37:13 -0700, Mike Henley wrote: (Annika1980) wrote in message ... What do you care why he does what he does? - Just be glad he did it! So I can go kill all the bad guys now? When is Bush planning on invading some of the countries like Sudan where people are slaughtered every day? Oh he isn't? Why not? Some people are increasingly suspicious of this Sudan crisis, in the sense of it being a manufactured one. I'm not necessarily a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not naiive either. The mercenaries arrested in South Africa were also reported to have interest in extractive industries in Western Suda, where the trouble is happening now. There certainly is clear precedent in the area. http://tinyurl.com/7248f Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:44:56 +0000, William Graham wrote:
Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... I'm not following this, William. But your spoken ideology sounds a helluva lot like what Hitler and Stalin were trying to do in their own special ways. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:44:56 +0000, William Graham wrote:
Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... I'm not following this, William. But your spoken ideology sounds a helluva lot like what Hitler and Stalin were trying to do in their own special ways. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
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"Dallas" wrote in message news On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:44:56 +0000, William Graham wrote: Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... I'm not following this, William. But your spoken ideology sounds a helluva lot like what Hitler and Stalin were trying to do in their own special ways. In 1945, after the end of WW-II, General George Patton wanted to continue across the Rine River and go into Russia and take over the whole World. - I believed he was right then, and History has proved both of us right today. Many millions of peoples lives would have been saved had we (the US) done this. - I'm sorry that you don't approve, but this is what I believe, based on the events that have occurred in the world from that day (1945) to the present. You see, my thinking is not guided by platitudes and/or convention. I try to think, "outside the box" as the current buzz words say.........If I see something that is good, I say, "This is good." I don't give a damn what anyone else says. At one time, 95% of the world's population believed that if one were to sail too far out to sea, one would fall over the edge and be eaten by dragons..... Today, 95% of the world's population believes that because Adolf Hitler tried to take over the world, then everyone who tries to take it over must be like Adolf Hitler. I know that this is flawed logic, and the world could be taken over by some entity that is totally different from Adolf Hitler. I believe that in 1945, at least, that entity could have been, and should have been, the United States. The world would have been run a hell of a lot better during the last 60 years had we done so. I'm sorry that your thinking is still trapped in that box......... |
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"Dallas" wrote in message news On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:44:56 +0000, William Graham wrote: Um, I hate to crash the party, but the mercenaries you speak of were arrested in Zimbabwe and they were planning a coup in Equatorial Guineau, not Sudan. They were allegedly financed by Mark Thatcher, son of Margaret Thatcher, who lives in South Africa (Mark, that is). Some of the mercenaries were South African. Since you guys like to bring up historical motives, let me remind you that had Patton (and Bill Graham) had their way, the United States would have taken over the whole world in 1945, and had we done this, there would have been millions and millions of lives saved that have been lost to tyrants during the last 60 years..... I'm not following this, William. But your spoken ideology sounds a helluva lot like what Hitler and Stalin were trying to do in their own special ways. In 1945, after the end of WW-II, General George Patton wanted to continue across the Rine River and go into Russia and take over the whole World. - I believed he was right then, and History has proved both of us right today. Many millions of peoples lives would have been saved had we (the US) done this. - I'm sorry that you don't approve, but this is what I believe, based on the events that have occurred in the world from that day (1945) to the present. You see, my thinking is not guided by platitudes and/or convention. I try to think, "outside the box" as the current buzz words say.........If I see something that is good, I say, "This is good." I don't give a damn what anyone else says. At one time, 95% of the world's population believed that if one were to sail too far out to sea, one would fall over the edge and be eaten by dragons..... Today, 95% of the world's population believes that because Adolf Hitler tried to take over the world, then everyone who tries to take it over must be like Adolf Hitler. I know that this is flawed logic, and the world could be taken over by some entity that is totally different from Adolf Hitler. I believe that in 1945, at least, that entity could have been, and should have been, the United States. The world would have been run a hell of a lot better during the last 60 years had we done so. I'm sorry that your thinking is still trapped in that box......... |
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Because he didn't lie about WMD's. He really believed they existed.
GET REAL He wouldn't get care less if Sadam had nuclear ****. All he wanted to do is to get rid of Sadam to get to the OIL. It is about oil and it always was. For Bush, 9/11 was like a blessing, allowing him to do whatever he wants to get more money. |
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