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  #11  
Old May 18th 10, 10:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Chris H
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In message , nospam
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In article , Chris H
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AS it stands the airline make the rules as part of the conditions for
travel. (Read the small print on the booking form :-)


the small print does not prohibit photography, other than *of* the
flight crew or flight deck.


Really? You know that for ALL airlines? The Iranian? Chinese?
Sudanese?


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Old May 18th 10, 10:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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In message , nospam
writes
In article , Bruce
wrote:

Mine is one of the UK's top intellectual property lawyers who also
lectures in IP law at two Ivy League universities and at the UK's top
law school.


uk law is not applicable everywhere, and just because he's a lawyer
doesn't mean he's always 100% correct.

To the original poster: Do not even attempt what you are proposing
without obtaining prior written permission from the airline. And
don't be disappointed if they say No.


nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely legal.


Not always.

countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at
airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it were
illegal:


It is not legal at all airports. In fact some Brits got locked up for
taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport....


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Old May 18th 10, 10:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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In article , Chris H
wrote:

AS it stands the airline make the rules as part of the conditions for
travel. (Read the small print on the booking form :-)


the small print does not prohibit photography, other than *of* the
flight crew or flight deck.


Really? You know that for ALL airlines? The Iranian? Chinese?
Sudanese?


the airlines on which i've flown say that, but it's fairly standard.
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Old May 18th 10, 10:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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In article , Chris H
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nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely legal.


Not always.


ok, unless you are trespassing or where there's an expectation of
privacy, and an airline cabin does not qualify for either one.

countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at
airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it were
illegal:


It is not legal at all airports.


it is in the usa.

In fact some Brits got locked up for
taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport....


the brits have a stick up their ass about photography in public.
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Old May 18th 10, 10:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On 5/18/2010 5:25 PM, nospam wrote:
In , Chris H
wrote:

nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely legal.


Not always.


ok, unless you are trespassing or where there's an expectation of
privacy, and an airline cabin does not qualify for either one.


US law does not apply to Chinese airlines doing business in the Far East.

countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at
airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it were
illegal:


It is not legal at all airports.


it is in the usa.

In fact some Brits got locked up for
taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport....


the brits have a stick up their ass about photography in public.


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Old May 18th 10, 10:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Chris H wrote:

In message , nospam
writes
In article , Bruce
wrote:

Mine is one of the UK's top intellectual property lawyers who also
lectures in IP law at two Ivy League universities and at the UK's

top law school.

uk law is not applicable everywhere, and just because he's a lawyer
doesn't mean he's always 100% correct.

To the original poster: Do not even attempt what you are proposing
without obtaining prior written permission from the airline. And
don't be disappointed if they say No.


nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely
legal.


Not always.

countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at
airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it
were illegal:


It is not legal at all airports. In fact some Brits got locked up for
taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport....


In Greece.

MC
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Old May 18th 10, 11:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
MC[_3_]
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MC wrote:

Chris H wrote:

In message , nospam
writes
In article , Bruce
wrote:

Mine is one of the UK's top intellectual property lawyers who

also lectures in IP law at two Ivy League universities and at
the UK's top law school.

uk law is not applicable everywhere, and just because he's a
lawyer doesn't mean he's always 100% correct.

To the original poster: Do not even attempt what you are

proposing without obtaining prior written permission from the
airline. And don't be disappointed if they say No.

nonsense. absent a prohibition of photography, it is completely
legal.


Not always.

countless people take photos inside and outside airplanes and at
airports every day. neither of these sites would be possible if it
were illegal:


It is not legal at all airports. In fact some Brits got locked up
for taking pictures of aeroplanes at a civil airport....


In Greece.

MC


Actually, it was on the airport perimeter I believe not the actual
airport. In the UK there is no law which stops a photographer taking
pictures of a civilian airport if the photographer does so from public
land/highway (or from within their own private property).

MC
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Old May 18th 10, 11:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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In article , J. Clarke
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US law does not apply to Chinese airlines doing business in the Far East.


neither does the opinion of a lawyer from the uk.
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Old May 19th 10, 01:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Bruce" wrote in message
...


Everyone should beware amateur "legal experts" who post on Usenet
newsgroups.


Very good advice.
You have stated the main reason why many here pay little attention to your
pontifications.

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Old May 19th 10, 01:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2010051809160116807-christophercampbellremovethis@hotmailcom...
On 2010-05-18 05:29:38 -0700, Bruce said:

On Tue, 18 May 2010 04:12:29 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:

On 2010-05-18 00:41:41 -0700, Bruce said:

On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:45:41 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:

You have confused "private property" with "private place." An
airplane,
cruise ship, restaurant, sports stadium, or garden might well be
private property. But they are public places -- open to the general
public. As such, the burden of proof is on you to show that you have a
reasonable expectation of privacy in such places.


Everyone should beware amateur "legal experts" who post on Usenet
newsgroups.

ROFL! Such as yourself, you mean?



On the contrary, because I shoot images for a living, I have to know
where I stand in relation to the law. As a result, I pay for, and
take account of, specialist legal advice.

You, on the other hand, can give all the BS advice you want, because
you haven't any experience to tell you just how wrong you are. You
are completely out of touch with reality.


Actually, I also pay for specialist legal advice.



People who do so used to make me very happy. They also paid for a lot of my
photo equipment

--
Peter

 




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