1TB external bus-powered SSD drive with Thunderbolt?

On 2014-05-30 15:46:29 +0000, Joe Kotroczo said:

On 30/05/2014 15:55, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-05-30 14:44:16 +0000, Joe Kotroczo said:

On 30/05/2014 14:49, Sandman wrote:
In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:
(...)

Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I have to
build one myself. I should be able to buy an external enclosure and
put a
1TB SSD disk in it.

If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and bus
powered, let us know.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other.../MOTGTBH5T1.0/

So you have to buy that, open it somehow (I don't see any screws?) and
remove the 1TB drive that's already in there? Seems a bit of a waste.

I believe they have that covered.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DIYSSD960F8/

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014-05-30 15:57:00 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-05-30 15:46:29 +0000, Joe Kotroczo said:

On 30/05/2014 15:55, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-05-30 14:44:16 +0000, Joe Kotroczo said:

On 30/05/2014 14:49, Sandman wrote:
In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:
(...)

Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I have to
build one myself. I should be able to buy an external enclosure and
put a
1TB SSD disk in it.

If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and bus
powered, let us know.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other.../MOTGTBH5T1.0/

So you have to buy that, open it somehow (I don't see any screws?) and
remove the 1TB drive that's already in there? Seems a bit of a waste.

I believe they have that covered.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DIYSSD960F8/

Oops! That isn't TB is it.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014-05-30 15:56:16 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-05-30 15:53:21 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-05-30 15:48:59 +0000, Sandman said:

In article 2014053006490842172-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-05-30 11:57:28 +0000, Sandman said:

Sandman:
I've been looking at the Lacie "Little Big Disk" which has
Thunderbolt 2 and very impressive read/write rates, but it's not
bus-powered, and I need a good mobile disk with preferably 1TB of
storage.

Any ideas?

Every HDD failure I have experienced has been with LaCie.

Me too. I would hope that that would be quite less of a concern with SSD's
though.

I have gone through several LaCie FW800 drives, they look great and
construction is solid. However, their major downfall lies in the brick
[ower supplies they use and the poor quality drives the hide in their
great looking enclosures. I have long since stopped buying and using
LaCie drive regardless of how great they look, they are sort of Ferraris,
or Porches powered with a Yugo engine. I highly recommend all that OWC
has to offer except LaCie. http://eshop.macsales.com ...including
their Thunderbolt stuff. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/

Yeah, OWC is neat enough, but doesn't have big enough disks, maxing out at
480GB for 6G, which would be ok if they had a neat enclosure for putting
two of them in there (or four). I guess I have to build my own...

My recommendation would be to consider their Mercury On-The-Go 1TB
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other.../MOTGTBH5T1.0/

So, uh, that's not actually SSD, though. It's a slow 5400 rpm disk where
the thunderbolt cable is just ridiculous

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/

3G is available at 960GB ($649) and 6G at 480GB ($399). So I need a
thunderbolt enclosure for them as well.

http://eshop.macsales.com/search/Mer...ectra+3G+960GB

Perhaps this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DIYSSD960F8/

Sorry I forgot you are looking for TB enclosures.

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Regards,

Savageduck

In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:

Joe Kotroczo:
Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Sandman:
Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I
have to build one myself. I should be able to buy an external
enclosure and put a 1TB SSD disk in it.

If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and bus
powered, let us know.

He
http://www.amazon.com/MiniPro-Thunderbolt-trade-External-Portable/dp/B00D2YKOUC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8

It comes with a 128GB SSD drive, so I would have to transplant a larger
disk in it, like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-adapter-Internal-CT960M500SSD1/dp/B00BQ8RGL6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8

Or this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE1T0BW/dp/B00E3W16OU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

I suppose one could sell the 128GB drive.

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Sandman[.net]

On 2014-05-30 16:02:36 +0000, Sandman said:

In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:

Joe Kotroczo:
Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Sandman:
Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I
have to build one myself. I should be able to buy an external
enclosure and put a 1TB SSD disk in it.

If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and bus
powered, let us know.

He
http://www.amazon.com/MiniPro-Thunderbolt-trade-External-Portable/dp/B00D2YKOUC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8

It

comes with a 128GB SSD drive, so I would have to transplant a larger
disk in it, like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-adapter-Internal-CT960M500SSD1/dp/B00BQ8RGL6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8

Or

this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE1T0BW/dp/B00E3W16OU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

I

suppose one could sell the 128GB drive.

....or put it in another enclosure.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 5/30/2014 11:56 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-05-30 15:53:21 +0000, Savageduck
said:

On 2014-05-30 15:48:59 +0000, Sandman said:

In article 2014053006490842172-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2014-05-30 11:57:28 +0000, Sandman said:

Sandman:
I've been looking at the Lacie "Little Big Disk" which has
Thunderbolt 2 and very impressive read/write rates, but it's not
bus-powered, and I need a good mobile disk with preferably 1TB of
storage.

Any ideas?

Every HDD failure I have experienced has been with LaCie.

Me too. I would hope that that would be quite less of a concern with
SSD's
though.

I have gone through several LaCie FW800 drives, they look great and
construction is solid. However, their major downfall lies in the brick
[ower supplies they use and the poor quality drives the hide in their
great looking enclosures. I have long since stopped buying and using
LaCie drive regardless of how great they look, they are sort of
Ferraris,
or Porches powered with a Yugo engine. I highly recommend all that OWC
has to offer except LaCie. http://eshop.macsales.com ...including
their Thunderbolt stuff.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/

Yeah, OWC is neat enough, but doesn't have big enough disks, maxing
out at
480GB for 6G, which would be ok if they had a neat enclosure for putting
two of them in there (or four). I guess I have to build my own...

My recommendation would be to consider their Mercury On-The-Go 1TB
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other.../MOTGTBH5T1.0/

So, uh, that's not actually SSD, though. It's a slow 5400 rpm disk where
the thunderbolt cable is just ridiculous

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/

3G is available at 960GB ($649) and 6G at 480GB ($399). So I need a
thunderbolt enclosure for them as well.

http://eshop.macsales.com/search/Mer...ectra+3G+960GB

Perhaps this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/DIYSSD960F8/

Are those prices not reversed since the 3G seems to cost more than the
6G? Anyway, the abbreviation for British pound is GBP (and that for US
dollar is USD).

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:

Savageduck:
On 2014-05-30 14:44:16 +0000, Joe Kotroczo said:

Joe Kotroczo:
(...)

Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Sandman:
Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I
have to build one myself. I should be able to buy an external
enclosure and put a 1TB SSD disk in it.

Joe Kotroczo:
If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and
bus powered, let us know.

Savageduck:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other.../MOTGTBH5T1.0/


So you have to buy that, open it somehow (I don't see any screws?)
and remove the 1TB drive that's already in there? Seems a bit of a
waste.

OWC's enclosures are easily opened. Unfortunately, OWC doesn't sell an
empty TB enclsoure. Either way, their enclsoures are pretty ugly either way



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Sandman[.net]

On 5/30/14 PDT, 9:02 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article , Joe Kotroczo wrote:

Joe Kotroczo:
Elgato do a 512GB SSD, buspowered.
http://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt...lt-drive-512gb

Sandman:
Yeah, I've seen it. I would prefer a 1TB drive though. Maybe I
have to build one myself. I should be able to buy an external
enclosure and put a 1TB SSD disk in it.

If you find an external enclosure which is both Thunderbolt and bus
powered, let us know.

He
http://www.amazon.com/MiniPro-Thunderbolt-trade-External-Portable/dp/B00D2YKOUC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8

It comes with a 128GB SSD drive, so I would have to transplant a larger
disk in it, like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-adapter-Internal-CT960M500SSD1/dp/B00BQ8RGL6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8

Or this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE1T0BW/dp/B00E3W16OU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

I suppose one could sell the 128GB drive.

Are you quite sure that the speed of an external drive will in fact
speed up processing? Last time I looked into it, the answer was no, but
times change, and processing methods move about as well.

I have not had problems with a number of LaCie disks, but perhaps
because I don't keep them powered up continually. I just bought a 1TB
drive that's plenty fast for backups (Thunderbolt, ISB powered.)

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

la cie is well known for power supply failures.

And disk failures, which I think is less of a factor with SSD's.

disk failures are not la cie's fault.

la cie doesn't make the disks. they buy them from disk manufacturers.

Why is this not a failure of La Cie? Don't they have a choice of what
vendors to purchase their disks from?

because la cie does not make the drives.

very simple.

if you buy a vehicle and the power steering fails, such as what's the
focus of a current recall, is it your fault or the car maker's fault?

Wait a minute, now. If a component of a product continually fails,

who said anything about continually failing?

there you go adding things that were not said.

and the manufacturer of that product does not change sources, who is
at fault? Whether it's disks or drives or any part, if past
experience indicates the component is a problem, then change sources.
If the company continues to use that vendor, then it is clearly the
fault of the company.

they'll likely change sources, but only *after* they see a higher than
normal failure rate, which might not be for a while.

also, like anything, disk drives can be part of a bad batch which only
becomes apparent well after they've been sourced and later batches are
just fine, so there's no need to change anything.

there have been a few of these over the years, including the then ibm
(now hitachi) deskstar from a decade or so ago, head delamination in
seagate drives which was around 5 years ago, problematic shake sensors
in western digital drives (not sure when on those), etc.

I don't know who makes the power steering components of the vehicles,
but I would put the fault with the car maker if they used those
components from that vendor and had knowledge that those components
were a problem in previous years.

That is the exactly the problem with La Cie.

the problem with la cie is they have ****ty power supplies.

In article , Sandman
wrote:

Well, between me, my colleagues and apparently Savageduck - the only drives
that have *ever* failed in external enclosures have been Lacie. All failed
drives have been in Lacie enclosures.

the mechanism itself is almost certainly fine, unless the power supply
failed in a way that damaged the drive (possible but not usually what
happens).