Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st, 2021

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Alan Baker wrote:
....
iCloud backups ARE encrypted...

...but Apple also has a key.

'The question even came up in a Speigle interview with Apple's CEO, Tim
Cook, translated by Google:

"Our users have a key there, and we have one. We do this because some
users lose or forget their key and then expect help from us to get their
data back. It is difficult to estimate when we will change this
practice. But I think that in the future it will be regulated like the
devices. We will therefore no longer have a key for this in the future."'

https://www.imore.com/apples-icloud-backup-plans-and-fbi

Apple being able to decrypt iCloud backups is not them not being
encrypted at all.

I'm not even surprised.
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 sms wrote:
On 11/11/2020 9:26 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 11/11/2020 07:15 PM, Brutus wrote:

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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On 2020-11-11 2:03 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:48:14 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

** Google is also introducing a new policy of deleting data from
inactive
** accounts that haven't been logged in to for at least two years."

The perfect backup! :-)

By the by* Costco has a special for a Seagate 8TB outboard hard drive
for $119.99....

For a while Best Buy had 8TB WD Red drives inside a USB housing for that
price or less.* Maybe last Black Friday.** Remove it from the housing
and you had a really nice internal drive.

Be careful doing that these days. Some of the external drives have the
USB controller built onto the PCB with no SATA interface available to
the user.

Ugh. Is there a list of USB HDDs that have and don't have SATA interfaces?
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In article , Ant
wrote:

For a while Best Buy had 8TB WD Red drives inside a USB housing for that
price or less.* Maybe last Black Friday.** Remove it from the housing
and you had a really nice internal drive.

Be careful doing that these days. Some of the external drives have the
USB controller built onto the PCB with no SATA interface available to
the user.

Ugh. Is there a list of USB HDDs that have and don't have SATA interfaces?

check the relevant disk drive forums. it's mainly a few 2.5" drives.

On 13/11/2020 4:35 am, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:15:24 -0800, Brutus wrote:

By the by Costco has a special for a Seagate 8TB outboard hard drive for $119.99....

Funny thing you mention the Costco special of a few months ago & this month

I have both the Costco Seagate 5GB & 8GB external drive.
o For some reason, the 8GB drive _requires_ its own 12VDC power to work.

For the life of me, I can't understand why.
o I get it that the 8GB drive has bells & whistles (powered USB ports).

But why couldn't they design it to work off of the desktop USB also?


Maybe because the current requirements are beyond USBs spec ?

geoff

On 13/11/2020 10:23 am, geoff wrote:
On 13/11/2020 4:35 am, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:15:24 -0800, Brutus wrote:

By the byÂ* Costco has a special for a Seagate 8TB outboard hard drive
for $119.99....

Funny thing you mention the Costco special of a few months ago & this
month

I have both the Costco Seagate 5GB & 8GB external drive.
o For some reason, the 8GB drive _requires_ its own 12VDC power to work.

For the life of me, I can't understand why.
o I get it that the 8GB drive has bells & whistles (powered USB ports).

But why couldn't they design it to work off of the desktop USB also?


Maybe because the current requirements are beyond USBs spec ?

geoff


Not to mention Voltage ...

geoff

On 11/11/20 2:26 PM, this is what Arlen Holder wrote:
"All photos and documents uploaded before June 1st [2021]
will not count against that 15GB cap"

"Google points out that it offers more free storage than others
you get 15GB instead of the paltry 5GB that Apple's iCloud gives you"

o Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st, 2021
https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21560810/google-photos-unlimited-cap-free-uploads-15gb-ending

"After five years of offering unlimited free photo backups at
high quality, Google Photos will start charging for storage once more
than 15 gigs on the account have been used.

The change will happen on June 1st, 2021, and it comes with other Google
Drive policy changes like counting Google Workspace documents and
spreadsheets against the same cap.

Google is also introducing a new policy of deleting data from inactive
accounts that haven't been logged in to for at least two years."

"Pixel owners will still be able to upload high-quality (not original)
photos for free after June 1st without those images counting against
their cap."

How-to-Geek had an interesting article today about how to download ALL of your google info. It was specifically talking about your google
photos, but you can also download a bunch of other things. Email happened to be another.

takeout.google.com

But here's the link.
https://www.howtogeek.com/695839/how...hotos-library/

I downloaded all of my google photos in a zip file. I don't have many and it didn't take but 3-4 minutes. You get an email with a link to
download the zip when it's done.

Al

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In comp.mobile.android nospam wrote:
In article , Ant
wrote:

For a while Best Buy had 8TB WD Red drives inside a USB housing for that
price or less.* Maybe last Black Friday.** Remove it from the housing
and you had a really nice internal drive.

Be careful doing that these days. Some of the external drives have the
USB controller built onto the PCB with no SATA interface available to
the user.

Ugh. Is there a list of USB HDDs that have and don't have SATA interfaces?

check the relevant disk drive forums. it's mainly a few 2.5" drives.

Which ones? Maybe someone should do the same in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage and comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
newsgroups too which I prefer!
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On 2020-11-12 12:09 p.m., Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Alan Baker wrote:
...
iCloud backups ARE encrypted...

...but Apple also has a key.

'The question even came up in a Speigle interview with Apple's CEO, Tim
Cook, translated by Google:

"Our users have a key there, and we have one. We do this because some
users lose or forget their key and then expect help from us to get their
data back. It is difficult to estimate when we will change this
practice. But I think that in the future it will be regulated like the
devices. We will therefore no longer have a key for this in the future."'

https://www.imore.com/apples-icloud-backup-plans-and-fbi

Apple being able to decrypt iCloud backups is not them not being
encrypted at all.

I'm not even surprised.


Neither am I... ...but I'm also not concerned about.

Apple's business model doesn't revolve around monetizing information
about its customers.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:25:51 -0500, Paul wrote:

The 8TB drive is 3.5".
The power requirements are 12V for motor, 5V for logic.

The 5TB drive is a 2.5". It's the largest 2.5"
they make. It runs off 5V only. 5V for motor, 5V for logic.

Hi Paul,

Regarding
o 5TB Costco Item #3005555 P/N 2R2AY1-570 (STHP5000600 on sticker)
o 8TB Costco Item #8888881 P/N 1XAAY5-570 (STEL800401 on sticker)

Here are photos I just snapped for you of the two Costco drives:
o https://i.postimg.cc/MpjQMNM7/hdd01.jpg size & weight difference
o https://i.postimg.cc/5tdFwgLZ/hdd02.jpg Costco packaging
o https://i.postimg.cc/76XGrydk/hdd03.jpg Model numbers

Thanks for that purposefully helpful information where I must comment that
the sheer physical size & weight difference of these two Seagate devices is
immense.
o The 5TB Seagate drive weighs a puny 7 1/4 ounces all alone
o The 8TB Seagate drive weighs a whopping 30 1/2 ounces all alone
https://i.postimg.cc/MpjQMNM7/hdd01.jpg

Side by side the sheer physical size difference is also huge:
o https://i.postimg.cc/5tdFwgLZ/hdd02.jpg

These are the respective model numbers of the two hard drives:
o 8TB Seagate Backup Plus Hub P/N 1XAAP3-500 [aka Model SRD0PV1] 12VDC, 1A
o 12VDC 3.0A Schenzhen Honor Model ADS-40J-12 12036EPCU Switching Adapter
o 5TB Seagate Backup Plus Portable P/N 2R2APM-505
o https://i.postimg.cc/76XGrydk/hdd03.jpg

What I love about the 5TB is it doesn't require an additional 12VDC power
supply, which means, I would think, perhaps, maybe, it's more likely to
work in a decade or so, but I'm not sure of the correct logic on that.

Which is more likely to work in a decade or two from now?

The 2.5" drives come in a variety of heights. 7mm & 9.5mm
is useful in a laptop. The laptop bay is not big
enough to support 15mm drives.

I do not know how tall the 5TB drive is, inside.

External drives have a USB connector. Some drives used
in such devices, the USB connector is part of the drive,
and the drive cannot be "shucked" and removed for usage
inside a SATA computer.

The possibility of being "shucked" makes a difference because we want this
drive to work in a decade or two from now.

Running the
drive serial number on the warranty page, will show the
drive itself in the bare state, has no warranty. The number
on the housing could indicate a valid warranty exists for
the entire item.

1. I went to the Seagate warranty page
https://www.seagate.com/support/warranty-and-replacements/

2. I enter the 8-character serial number from the Costco sticker.

3. Your Product = Backup Plus Portable == this is the 5TB
Model Number = STHP5000600
Serial Number = xxxxxxxx
Warranty Valid Until November 29, 2021

Your Product = Backup Plus HUB == this is the 8TB
Model Number = STEL8000401
Serial Number = xxxxxxxx
Warranty Valid Until October 10, 2022

I'm not so much worried about warranty as I am the basic stone cold logic
of which drive is most likely to be still working a decade or two from now.
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On 2020-11-12 2:42 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:25:51 -0500, Paul wrote:

The 8TB drive is 3.5".
The power requirements are 12V for motor, 5V for logic.

The 5TB drive is a 2.5". It's the largest 2.5"
they make. It runs off 5V only. 5V for motor, 5V for logic.

Hi Paul,

Regarding
o 5TB Costco Item #3005555 P/N 2R2AY1-570 (STHP5000600 on sticker)
o 8TB Costco Item #8888881 P/N 1XAAY5-570 (STEL800401 on sticker)

Here are photos I just snapped for you of the two Costco drives:
o https://i.postimg.cc/MpjQMNM7/hdd01.jpg size & weight difference
o https://i.postimg.cc/5tdFwgLZ/hdd02.jpg Costco packaging
o https://i.postimg.cc/76XGrydk/hdd03.jpg Model numbers

Thanks for that purposefully helpful information where I must comment that
the sheer physical size & weight difference of these two Seagate devices is
immense.
o The 5TB Seagate drive weighs a puny 7 1/4 ounces all alone
o The 8TB Seagate drive weighs a whopping 30 1/2 ounces all alone
https://i.postimg.cc/MpjQMNM7/hdd01.jpg

Side by side the sheer physical size difference is also huge:
o https://i.postimg.cc/5tdFwgLZ/hdd02.jpg

These are the respective model numbers of the two hard drives:
o 8TB Seagate Backup Plus Hub P/N 1XAAP3-500 [aka Model SRD0PV1] 12VDC, 1A
o 12VDC 3.0A Schenzhen Honor Model ADS-40J-12 12036EPCU Switching Adapter
o 5TB Seagate Backup Plus Portable P/N 2R2APM-505
o https://i.postimg.cc/76XGrydk/hdd03.jpg

What I love about the 5TB is it doesn't require an additional 12VDC power
supply, which means, I would think, perhaps, maybe, it's more likely to
work in a decade or so, but I'm not sure of the correct logic on that.

Which is more likely to work in a decade or two from now?

The 2.5" drives come in a variety of heights. 7mm & 9.5mm
is useful in a laptop. The laptop bay is not big
enough to support 15mm drives.

I do not know how tall the 5TB drive is, inside.

External drives have a USB connector. Some drives used
in such devices, the USB connector is part of the drive,
and the drive cannot be "shucked" and removed for usage
inside a SATA computer.

The possibility of being "shucked" makes a difference because we want this
drive to work in a decade or two from now.

Running the
drive serial number on the warranty page, will show the
drive itself in the bare state, has no warranty. The number
on the housing could indicate a valid warranty exists for
the entire item.

1. I went to the Seagate warranty page
https://www.seagate.com/support/warranty-and-replacements/

2. I enter the 8-character serial number from the Costco sticker.

3. Your Product = Backup Plus Portable == this is the 5TB
Model Number = STHP5000600
Serial Number = xxxxxxxx
Warranty Valid Until November 29, 2021

Your Product = Backup Plus HUB == this is the 8TB
Model Number = STEL8000401
Serial Number = xxxxxxxx
Warranty Valid Until October 10, 2022

I'm not so much worried about warranty as I am the basic stone cold logic
of which drive is most likely to be still working a decade or two from now.


If you're depending on a hard drive to be working a decade or more from
now, you're an even bigger fool than I thought.