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[SI] Pointer to current rulz?
On 2012-05-08 15:06 , Chemiker wrote:
Aside from the deadlines and size limits, what other rules are in place? Cropping, brightness adjustment, where's the limit? http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage In a nutshell cropping is allowed, as are adjustments to tone/brightness/contrast, USM, etc. HDR is acceptable whether in-camera or post-processed from several images. I'd just caution against over-doing-it. Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. PS: Posts referring to the SI should have SI in square brackets: [SI] Pointer to current rules. -- The Committee |
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[SI] Pointer to current rulz?
On 5/8/2012 5:53 PM, SI Committee wrote:
On 2012-05-08 15:06 , Chemiker wrote: Aside from the deadlines and size limits, what other rules are in place? Cropping, brightness adjustment, where's the limit? http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage In a nutshell cropping is allowed, as are adjustments to tone/brightness/contrast, USM, etc. HDR is acceptable whether in-camera or post-processed from several images. I'd just caution against over-doing-it. Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. PS: Posts referring to the SI should have SI in square brackets: [SI] Pointer to current rules. Please define "extensive digital manipulation." Is it converting from color to monochrome? Is it: major color correction; noise removal; blurring; or selective and/or overall sharpening? Is it: removing a skin blemish; a people blemish; an object blemish? How about composites, solarizations, and posterizations. (all of which I have done in the darkroom.) etc. Please don't go there. Allow artistic freedom. Once I am back in shooting form, I plan to submit any image that is compatible with the theme. Remember this is an art form, not a pure reporting format. -- Peter |
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[SI] Pointer to current rulz?
On Tue, 08 May 2012 17:53:06 -0400, SI Committee
wrote: Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. Are we getting into X-rated territory here? Just askin' Alex |
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Pointer to current rulz?
On 5/9/2012 7:44 AM, gpsman wrote:
On May 8, 8:03 pm, wrote: On 5/8/2012 5:53 PM, SI Committee wrote: HDR is acceptable whether in-camera or post-processed from several images. I'd just caution against over-doing-it. Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. Please define "extensive digital manipulation." My definition would include HDR. How about composites, solarizations, and posterizations. (all of which I have done in the darkroom.) etc. Please don't go there. Allow artistic freedom. I disagree. This seems to be intended a "shooting" [SI] "assignment". "Artistic" manipulation is... something else. Once I am back in shooting form, I plan to submit any image that is compatible with the theme. Remember this is an art form, not a pure reporting format. I disagree. It is whatever the moderator says it is. Were it me, I'd spec a mandate and 5 minutes max. for "adjustments", and anyone who didn't want to participate would be welcome to not participate, and whatever images that were in my opinion over- manipulated would go straight in the bit bucket. Always your right. I sure as hell would not open a discussion of opinions of what the mandates should be. I'm pretty sure moderating the [SI] in my manner would be enough work for free, for me. Is asking for clarification opening a discussion. I can do any of the items listed above in a darkroom. Just because I am using a digital format doesn't mean there should be more restrictions. -- Peter |
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Pointer to current rulz?
On 2012-05-09 07:44 , gpsman wrote:
On May 8, 8:03 pm, PeterN wrote: On 5/8/2012 5:53 PM, SI Committee wrote: HDR is acceptable whether in-camera or post-processed from several images. I'd just caution against over-doing-it. Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. Please define "extensive digital manipulation." My definition would include HDR. HDR was a film technique, albeit not common, so (if one refers to the founding SI discussions and "common darkroom technique") it is allowed. But as we said, if one submits an extreme v. of HDR in the SI it is not likely to be well received. How about composites, solarizations, and posterizations. (all of which I have done in the darkroom.) etc. Please don't go there. Allow artistic freedom. I disagree. This seems to be intended a "shooting" [SI] "assignment". "Artistic" manipulation is... something else. Extremes in digital manipulation are indeed not the point of the SI which is about capture, not editing skills. Once I am back in shooting form, I plan to submit any image that is compatible with the theme. Remember this is an art form, not a pure reporting format. I disagree. It is whatever the moderator says it is. Were it me, I'd spec a mandate and 5 minutes max. for "adjustments", and anyone who didn't want to participate would be welcome to not participate, and whatever images that were in my opinion over- manipulated would go straight in the bit bucket. I sure as hell would not open a discussion of opinions of what the mandates should be. I'm pretty sure moderating the [SI] in my manner would be enough work for free, for me. The moderators have never thrown a photo out to our knowledge (other than one case where a moderator thought a particular photo to be too explicit sexually). There was at least one photo that was obviously manipulated beyond capture with the addition of a feature that was obviously fake. It was allowed in and roundly rejected in comments. -- The Committee |
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[SI] Pointer to current rulz?
On 2012-05-09 10:30 , Chemiker wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2012 17:53:06 -0400, SI Committee wrote: Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. Are we getting into X-rated territory here? ;-) Past moderators would not allow nudity. I would as long as it is not vulgar/obscene or otherwise offensive. -- "A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds." -Samuel Clemens. |
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[SI] Pointer to current rulz?
On 5/9/2012 5:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2012-05-09 10:30 , Chemiker wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 17:53:06 -0400, SI Committee wrote: Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the goal of the SI. Are we getting into X-rated territory here? ;-) Past moderators would not allow nudity. I would as long as it is not vulgar/obscene or otherwise offensive. Ah, a disciple of Justice Potter who could not define obscenity but knew it when he saw it! -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not" in Reply To. |
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