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On 2/6/2018 9:13 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Savageduck" wrote | I hate to be the ignorant Apple user in the room, but what is this Task | Manager of which you talk? | It's not really a manager. It's a system applet designed to be unaffected by software running at "user" level. It can be invoked to see how much RAM is in use, CPU usage, and to see a list of running processes, along with their memory usage. For general usage, Process Monitor from Sysinternals is much better. It provides more info, including a list of loaded libraries for each process. But TaskMon, as it's often called, can be handy for killing a frozen program. Yep. It hand frozen programs well. And to think Bill Gates originally did not want it included in the O/S. -- PeterN |
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On 2/6/2018 10:48 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Eric Stevens" wrote | Adobe Photoshop Lightroom has stopped working. | | A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. | Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is | available. | You might find something out if there's a button for "Details". I have Visual Studio installed, which also gives me the option to debug the CPU instructions! But it's rare that you'll learn anything helpful from all that. Sometimes if it tells you a DLL that crashed then that might tell you something. What you're seeing is just a PR wrapper around a program crash. The program crashed. Microsoft is making it look like they've got everything under control: "Don't worry. We're on it." It used to be that it just crashed. Now Microsoft design it to make you think there's an army of people in lab coats standing by to examine the problem and fix it.... And that's why Win10 *must* be spyware. For your own good. So why did the program crash? Maybe it's an Adobe bug. Maybe it's an incompatible printer driver. Maybe it's something seemingly unrelated, like a font mixup or graphics problem. All you can do is to search and see if someone has figured it out. (And watch out for false information. There are a lot of people who stop getting a rash after drinking a Coke and then jump to the conclusion that Coke cures rashes.) But you also have to remember that you really shouldn't be trying to do real work on Windows 10. You're an unpaid beta tester. The system configuration can be changed at any time, willy nilly, as Microsoft decides to zap you with their next test version that corporate customers don't have to put up with. That may seem snide, or anti-Win10, or anti-Microsoft, but it's actually just plain fact. Win10 is not a stable system. System updates need to be carefully tested over time for compatibility. Corporate IT people do that before rolling out updates to their "fleet". Prior to Win10, even those tested updates were tested for months or years *before* the IT people got them. A Windows version or service pack was created, tested, released to volunteer beta testers in version after version.... Only after months or even years of that was the final version released for IT people to start their own testing. It no longer works that way. You're getting largely untested updates that Microsoft forces down your throat when the mood hits them. With Win10, you're running one of the test machines without getting paid for your trouble. But it is worth searching. You'll find out a lot more that way then by looking specifically in Adobe forums or photo newsgroups, especially given that you don't know where the problem is coming from. I use Win 7 on my desktop, for that very reason. I have Win10 on my laptop, and it seems to be frequently getting updates, some of which keep forcing me to change settings. -- PeterN |
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On 2/6/2018 11:21 AM, android wrote:
snip True, but who would volunteer to work for a company like Microsoft without getting paid? If MS want work for free then they obviosly have to make them Win 10 Home users use untested soft... And then just wait for bugreports so that updates can be fixed before Win 10 Pro users updates at their convenience. I have issues with Win 10 Pro, on my laptop. Yet some of my friends say they have no issues with Win 10. * But it is worth searching. You'll find out a lot more that way then by looking specifically in Adobe forums or photo newsgroups, especially given that you don't know where the problem is coming from. Windows? -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: I use Win 7 on my desktop, for that very reason. I have Win10 on my laptop, and it seems to be frequently getting updates, some of which keep forcing me to change settings. which ones? although updates are way too frequent, your settings shouldn't be changing. |
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"PeterN" wrote
| I have issues with Win 10 Pro, on my laptop. Yet some of my friends say | they have no issues with Win 10. | I guess it depends on what you do and what you expect. Some people probably think every time they get interrupted for updates it means pure goodness is flowing into their computer. I saw something yesterday about shutting off uncontrolled updates and spyware. It was a complicated series of PowerShell incantations, but all it actually did was to disable the Windows Update service. (Much easier to accomplish through the services applet, but I guess that doesn't justify an article. Numerous obscure incantations makes it sound fancy.) I don't know whether that actually works. I would think Windows would go around it, or eventually throw a tantrum, demanding to call home. But if I had Win10 I'd try it. As it is, I always do that on WinXP and Win7 anyway. I just installs SPs. And I installed the "wrapup" for Win7. But I don't allow any willy nilly dripfeed. |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:57:03 -0500, PeterN
wrote: On 2/5/2018 10:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: My Lightroom Classic CC seems to have decided to give up printing. When I select Print it brings up the appropriate screen identifying the printer and the paper size and then a notice pops up which says something like: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available. As far as I know all my software is up to date. Is this just my problem or have other people also experienced it? W10 of course. Call Adobe support. it comes with the package. The last time i had an issue, I I used them, and they remotely found and fixed the problem. I'm now doing that but haven't got to the remote connection as yet. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:57:03 -0500, PeterN
wrote: On 2/5/2018 10:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: My Lightroom Classic CC seems to have decided to give up printing. When I select Print it brings up the appropriate screen identifying the printer and the paper size and then a notice pops up which says something like: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available. As far as I know all my software is up to date. Is this just my problem or have other people also experienced it? W10 of course. Call Adobe support. it comes with the package. The last time i had an issue, I I used them, and they remotely found and fixed the problem. Preliminary discussions suggest they want me to file a Crash Report. This should happen automatically. As far as I can tell Crash Reporter is not working (known problem) and I have not yet found sensible advice about getting it working. No, I haven't turned it off. Nor have I found a setting where I can turn it on or off, although there is supposed to be one. I've fallen in the sea and somebody has stolen my life belt. :-( Hopefully someone from Adobe will respond. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 2/7/2018 4:32 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: I use Win 7 on my desktop, for that very reason. I have Win10 on my laptop, and it seems to be frequently getting updates, some of which keep forcing me to change settings. which ones? although updates are way too frequent, your settings shouldn't be changing. Win 10 Pro. J agree with you. I will take it in to the Windows store when I feel like it. -- PeterN |
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On 2/7/2018 5:05 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote | I have issues with Win 10 Pro, on my laptop. Yet some of my friends say | they have no issues with Win 10. | I guess it depends on what you do and what you expect. Some people probably think every time they get interrupted for updates it means pure goodness is flowing into their computer. I saw something yesterday about shutting off uncontrolled updates and spyware. It was a complicated series of PowerShell incantations, but all it actually did was to disable the Windows Update service. (Much easier to accomplish through the services applet, but I guess that doesn't justify an article. Numerous obscure incantations makes it sound fancy.) I don't know whether that actually works. I would think Windows would go around it, or eventually throw a tantrum, demanding to call home. But if I had Win10 I'd try it. As it is, I always do that on WinXP and Win7 anyway. I just installs SPs. And I installed the "wrapup" for Win7. But I don't allow any willy nilly dripfeed. I have had few issues with Win7. I have had password issues with the Chrome browser, when I change passwords. -- PeterN |
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On 2/7/2018 10:12 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:57:03 -0500, PeterN wrote: On 2/5/2018 10:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: My Lightroom Classic CC seems to have decided to give up printing. When I select Print it brings up the appropriate screen identifying the printer and the paper size and then a notice pops up which says something like: Adobe Photoshop Lightroom has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available. As far as I know all my software is up to date. Is this just my problem or have other people also experienced it? W10 of course. Call Adobe support. it comes with the package. The last time i had an issue, I I used them, and they remotely found and fixed the problem. Preliminary discussions suggest they want me to file a Crash Report. This should happen automatically. As far as I can tell Crash Reporter is not working (known problem) and I have not yet found sensible advice about getting it working. No, I haven't turned it off. Nor have I found a setting where I can turn it on or off, although there is supposed to be one. I've fallen in the sea and somebody has stolen my life belt. :-( Hopefully someone from Adobe will respond. One trick I have used is deleting the preference file. When you start it again it will create the default preference file. I found this on the web: Now just hold Shift-Option (on Windows it's Shift-Alt thanks Rob Sylvan) and restart Lightroom. Keep holding them down and the dialog below will appear. Click “Reset Preferences” and it installs a factory fresh set of preferences for you, and the problems you were having right along with it. hth -- PeterN |
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