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Old March 6th 17, 04:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default The D7300 could be a D500 on a Budget

On 2017-03-06 14:24:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 22:52:26 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-06 06:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:53:01 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-05 19:00:23 +0000, android said:

In article ,
me wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:50:42 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

Not yet. I have 4 Fujicon X lenses, and if anything I plan to buy
three, or four more. I actually like the Fujifilm X-system, and I enjoy
shooting with it. I have no complaints with the glass which has been of
excellent build and quality.

I am going to retain my D300S and my Nikkor glass for those times I
might have a preference of a DSLR. For now a D500 and any new Nikkor
glass will have to wait.

If you are short on storage space, send me your D300S Nikon lenses and
I'll take care of them while you use your Fujifim.


That depends on what you are looking for, I might consider a loan of a
lens or two.


A 70-200 f/2.8 VR would be nice for shooting night baseball.


Unfortunately that is a lens which has always been on my wish list, so
you might have to hit up PeterN or a taste of his. My only f/2.8 is the
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, a sharp, fast lens, but not the sort of thing you
are looking for. Unless of course you are looking to explore shooting
wide.

My
55-300 f/4.5 is fine for daytime baseball, but my D300 doesn't handle
higher ISO well as you know.


That was one reason I got impatient when the D300 successor was long
over due, and it was begining to look as if Nikon was going to abandon
APS-C Prosumer DSLR's for FF, all at a time when performance in
consumer APS-C was improving. So I explored my options because I was
not going to make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a
D7100 or D7200, but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my
exploration I stumbled over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap
to mirrorless, and I couldn't be happier. By the time Nikon released
the D500 I had made the move to Fujifilm-X. The glass is very good and
the shooting experience suits me.

Today, if were asked to recommend cameras for low light, high ISO
performance APS-C camera, I would say, consider these; D500, X-Pro2,
X-T2, or X-T20.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #12  
Old March 6th 17, 04:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default The D7300 could be a D500 on a Budget

In article 2017030607143060811-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2017-03-06 14:24:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 22:52:26 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-06 06:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:53:01 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-05 19:00:23 +0000, android said:

In article ,
me wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:50:42 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

Not yet. I have 4 Fujicon X lenses, and if anything I plan to buy
three, or four more. I actually like the Fujifilm X-system, and I enjoy
shooting with it. I have no complaints with the glass which has been of
excellent build and quality.

I am going to retain my D300S and my Nikkor glass for those times I
might have a preference of a DSLR. For now a D500 and any new Nikkor
glass will have to wait.

If you are short on storage space, send me your D300S Nikon lenses and
I'll take care of them while you use your Fujifim.

That depends on what you are looking for, I might consider a loan of a
lens or two.


A 70-200 f/2.8 VR would be nice for shooting night baseball.


Unfortunately that is a lens which has always been on my wish list, so
you might have to hit up PeterN or a taste of his. My only f/2.8 is the
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, a sharp, fast lens, but not the sort of thing you
are looking for. Unless of course you are looking to explore shooting
wide.

My
55-300 f/4.5 is fine for daytime baseball, but my D300 doesn't handle
higher ISO well as you know.


That was one reason I got impatient when the D300 successor was long
over due, and it was begining to look as if Nikon was going to abandon
APS-C Prosumer DSLR's for FF, all at a time when performance in
consumer APS-C was improving. So I explored my options because I was
not going to make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a
D7100 or D7200, but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my
exploration I stumbled over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap
to mirrorless, and I couldn't be happier. By the time Nikon released
the D500 I had made the move to Fujifilm-X. The glass is very good and
the shooting experience suits me.

Today, if were asked to recommend cameras for low light, high ISO
performance APS-C camera, I would say, consider these; D500, X-Pro2,
X-T2, or X-T20.


Soo.... Why don't you ditch that Fuji experiment of yours and get what
you want. Between the lenses that you haven't got yet and the XT2 you
could get a D500. Especially if you sell a couple of the Fujonons that
you have. You'd still have the E2 as a nice little walkabout cam!

There seem to be a new Sigma 70-200/2.8 Sport in the pipeline, BTW:

http://www.canonrumors.com/sigma-to-...mm-f2-8-dg-os-
sport-lens-in-2017-cr2/
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  #13  
Old March 6th 17, 04:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2017-03-06 15:28:02 +0000, android said:

In article 2017030607143060811-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2017-03-06 14:24:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 22:52:26 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-06 06:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:53:01 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-05 19:00:23 +0000, android said:

In article ,
me wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:50:42 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

Not yet. I have 4 Fujicon X lenses, and if anything I plan to buy
three, or four more. I actually like the Fujifilm X-system, and I enjoy
shooting with it. I have no complaints with the glass which has been of
excellent build and quality.

I am going to retain my D300S and my Nikkor glass for those times I
might have a preference of a DSLR. For now a D500 and any new Nikkor
glass will have to wait.

If you are short on storage space, send me your D300S Nikon lenses and
I'll take care of them while you use your Fujifim.

That depends on what you are looking for, I might consider a loan of a
lens or two.

A 70-200 f/2.8 VR would be nice for shooting night baseball.


Unfortunately that is a lens which has always been on my wish list, so
you might have to hit up PeterN or a taste of his. My only f/2.8 is the
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, a sharp, fast lens, but not the sort of thing you
are looking for. Unless of course you are looking to explore shooting
wide.

My
55-300 f/4.5 is fine for daytime baseball, but my D300 doesn't handle
higher ISO well as you know.


That was one reason I got impatient when the D300 successor was long
over due, and it was begining to look as if Nikon was going to abandon
APS-C Prosumer DSLR's for FF, all at a time when performance in
consumer APS-C was improving. So I explored my options because I was
not going to make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a
D7100 or D7200, but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my
exploration I stumbled over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap
to mirrorless, and I couldn't be happier. By the time Nikon released
the D500 I had made the move to Fujifilm-X. The glass is very good and
the shooting experience suits me.

Today, if were asked to recommend cameras for low light, high ISO
performance APS-C camera, I would say, consider these; D500, X-Pro2,
X-T2, or X-T20.


Soo.... Why don't you ditch that Fuji experiment of yours and get what
you want. Between the lenses that you haven't got yet and the XT2 you
could get a D500. Especially if you sell a couple of the Fujonons that
you have. You'd still have the E2 as a nice little walkabout cam!


I have come to love the lightening of my kit load with the X-E2, and if
there were an "X-E3" I would buy that in a heartbeat. So for now it is
the X-T2, but no US vendors have any available, that includes B&H, and
Adorama, but they do have some X-Pro2's, so that is still an option. If
I take my D300S+battery grip, and any one of my working lenses they
weigh more than my X-E2 and all four of my current XF combined.

There seem to be a new Sigma 70-200/2.8 Sport in the pipeline, BTW:

http://www.canonrumors.com/sigma-to-...mm-f2-8-dg-os-
sport-lens-in-2017-cr2/


....er, OK.
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Savageduck

  #14  
Old March 6th 17, 04:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 06/03/2017 15:14, Savageduck wrote:
[]
So I explored my options because I was not going to
make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a D7100 or D7200,
but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my exploration I stumbled
over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap to mirrorless, and I
couldn't be happier.

[]

Although I chose micro four-thirds, I am also very happy going
mirrorless. Of course, it won't suit everyone, but I do wonder whether
those using a mirrored camera might changed their views were they
actually to use mirrorless for a while.

I have been very disappointed with Nikon's mirrorless offerings so far,
otherwise I might have stuck with them.

--
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David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #15  
Old March 6th 17, 05:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default The D7300 could be a D500 on a Budget

In article 2017030607502343710-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2017-03-06 15:28:02 +0000, android said:

In article 2017030607143060811-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

On 2017-03-06 14:24:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 22:52:26 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-06 06:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:53:01 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2017-03-05 19:00:23 +0000, android said:

In article ,
me wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 23:50:42 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

Not yet. I have 4 Fujicon X lenses, and if anything I plan to buy
three, or four more. I actually like the Fujifilm X-system, and I enjoy
shooting with it. I have no complaints with the glass which has been of
excellent build and quality.

I am going to retain my D300S and my Nikkor glass for those times I
might have a preference of a DSLR. For now a D500 and any new Nikkor
glass will have to wait.

If you are short on storage space, send me your D300S Nikon lenses and
I'll take care of them while you use your Fujifim.

That depends on what you are looking for, I might consider a loan of a
lens or two.

A 70-200 f/2.8 VR would be nice for shooting night baseball.

Unfortunately that is a lens which has always been on my wish list, so
you might have to hit up PeterN or a taste of his. My only f/2.8 is the
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, a sharp, fast lens, but not the sort of thing you
are looking for. Unless of course you are looking to explore shooting
wide.

My
55-300 f/4.5 is fine for daytime baseball, but my D300 doesn't handle
higher ISO well as you know.

That was one reason I got impatient when the D300 successor was long
over due, and it was begining to look as if Nikon was going to abandon
APS-C Prosumer DSLR's for FF, all at a time when performance in
consumer APS-C was improving. So I explored my options because I was
not going to make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a
D7100 or D7200, but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my
exploration I stumbled over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap
to mirrorless, and I couldn't be happier. By the time Nikon released
the D500 I had made the move to Fujifilm-X. The glass is very good and
the shooting experience suits me.

Today, if were asked to recommend cameras for low light, high ISO
performance APS-C camera, I would say, consider these; D500, X-Pro2,
X-T2, or X-T20.


Soo.... Why don't you ditch that Fuji experiment of yours and get what
you want. Between the lenses that you haven't got yet and the XT2 you
could get a D500. Especially if you sell a couple of the Fujonons that
you have. You'd still have the E2 as a nice little walkabout cam!


I have come to love the lightening of my kit load with the X-E2, and if
there were an "X-E3" I would buy that in a heartbeat. So for now it is
the X-T2, but no US vendors have any available, that includes B&H, and
Adorama, but they do have some X-Pro2's, so that is still an option.


Can't be long since the Brits are served:

https://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=3773576&o=sort_lager&rev=1

If
I take my D300S+battery grip, and any one of my working lenses they
weigh more than my X-E2 and all four of my current XF combined.

There seem to be a new Sigma 70-200/2.8 Sport in the pipeline, BTW:

http://www.canonrumors.com/sigma-to-...mm-f2-8-dg-os-
sport-lens-in-2017-cr2/


...er, OK.

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Old March 6th 17, 05:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2017-03-06 15:56:26 +0000, David Taylor
said:

On 06/03/2017 15:14, Savageduck wrote:
[]
So I explored my options because I was not going to
make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a D7100 or D7200,
but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my exploration I stumbled
over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap to mirrorless, and I
couldn't be happier.

[]

Although I chose micro four-thirds, I am also very happy going
mirrorless. Of course, it won't suit everyone, but I do wonder whether
those using a mirrored camera might changed their views were they
actually to use mirrorless for a while.


I was a doubter right up until I unboxed my X-E2 and could appreciate
the concept for myself. Now I could go with RILC or MILC, but I am
baised toward MILC and what it has to offer me.

I have been very disappointed with Nikon's mirrorless offerings so far,
otherwise I might have stuck with them.


Nikon made a big mistake in not following Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm,
Panasonic, and even Canon, with a larger investment in a MILC
development program.
The Nikon MILC offerings have not struck home with me, they are well
behind the curve in that category compared with the other
manufacturers. Today the only Nikon which could possibly tempt me is
the D500. However, it is still a heavy, bulky DSLR without any of the
weight-saving benefit of a MILC.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old March 6th 17, 06:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 3/6/2017 11:58 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-03-06 15:56:26 +0000, David Taylor
said:

On 06/03/2017 15:14, Savageduck wrote:
[]
So I explored my options because I was not going to
make the move to FF. I was on the verge of considering a D7100 or
D7200,
but those were not a D300S replacement, so in my exploration I stumbled
over the Fujifilm X-Series, and I made the leap to mirrorless, and I
couldn't be happier.

[]

Although I chose micro four-thirds, I am also very happy going
mirrorless. Of course, it won't suit everyone, but I do wonder
whether those using a mirrored camera might changed their views were
they actually to use mirrorless for a while.


I was a doubter right up until I unboxed my X-E2 and could appreciate
the concept for myself. Now I could go with RILC or MILC, but I am
baised toward MILC and what it has to offer me.

I have been very disappointed with Nikon's mirrorless offerings so
far, otherwise I might have stuck with them.


Nikon made a big mistake in not following Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm,
Panasonic, and even Canon, with a larger investment in a MILC
development program.
The Nikon MILC offerings have not struck home with me, they are well
behind the curve in that category compared with the other
manufacturers. Today the only Nikon which could possibly tempt me is
the D500. However, it is still a heavy, bulky DSLR without any of the
weight-saving benefit of a MILC.


Nikon also lagged far behind Canon in DSLR development quite some years
ago. They don't any longer, they've surpassed Canon in some respects.
I suspect that soon enough they will have serious competitive cameras in
the mirrorless market.

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Old March 6th 17, 06:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PAS wrote:


I have been very disappointed with Nikon's mirrorless offerings so
far, otherwise I might have stuck with them.


Nikon made a big mistake in not following Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm,
Panasonic, and even Canon, with a larger investment in a MILC
development program.
The Nikon MILC offerings have not struck home with me, they are well
behind the curve in that category compared with the other
manufacturers. Today the only Nikon which could possibly tempt me is
the D500. However, it is still a heavy, bulky DSLR without any of the
weight-saving benefit of a MILC.


Nikon also lagged far behind Canon in DSLR development quite some years
ago.


no they didn't. nikon slrs were comparable to canon, other than low
light performance in early models. once the d3 came out, canon was left
in the dust.

They don't any longer, they've surpassed Canon in some respects.


in every respect, other than gps/wifi, which canon's implementation is
rather good.

I suspect that soon enough they will have serious competitive cameras in
the mirrorless market.


maybe. meanwhile, the entire camera industry is hurting due to
smartphones.
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Old March 6th 17, 07:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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In article ,
nospam wrote:

maybe. meanwhile, the entire camera industry is hurting due to
smartphones.


It ain't hurting. The compact camera function and phone has been a given
integration since the Ericsson P-line and there's no way back:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p800-pictures-326.php
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Old March 7th 17, 12:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:24:12 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

A 70-200 f/2.8 VR would be nice for shooting night baseball. My
55-300 f/4.5 is fine for daytime baseball, but my D300 doesn't handle
higher ISO well as you know.


I'm curious, what do you consider to be higher ISO in this context?
 




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