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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html
"Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
On Mon, 19 May 2014 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. When was the last time you put gasoline in a camera? :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
On 5/19/2014 7:09 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2014 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. When was the last time you put gasoline in a camera? :-) He could have confused Japan with China. besides, the interior electrodes are held in place with plastic, of all things. However, the article does mention an intent to use the batteries in cars. -- PeterN |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:36:10 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 5/19/2014 7:09 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2014 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. When was the last time you put gasoline in a camera? :-) He could have confused Japan with China. besides, the interior electrodes are held in place with plastic, of all things. However, the article does mention an intent to use the batteries in cars. Well, that is where the big-money market is; that and aircraft. But I would expect to see them pop up in consumer devices such as laptop/notebooks, tablets, mobile phones, cameras etc. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 5/19/2014 7:54 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:36:10 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/19/2014 7:09 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2014 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. When was the last time you put gasoline in a camera? :-) He could have confused Japan with China. besides, the interior electrodes are held in place with plastic, of all things. However, the article does mention an intent to use the batteries in cars. Well, that is where the big-money market is; that and aircraft. But I would expect to see them pop up in consumer devices such as laptop/notebooks, tablets, mobile phones, cameras etc. I would hope so. The technology sounds promising. I remember the first time I saw a computer. It had a lot of vacuum tubes, was in a large, air conditioned room, and had less computing power than an ordinary calculator. -- PeterN |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
Eric Stevens wrote:
http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more If the anode and cathode are both carbon, where is the e.m.f. difference coming from? You need an electron donor and an electron acceptor to make a battery function. Mort Linder |
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 22:08:55 -0400, Mort wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more If the anode and cathode are both carbon, where is the e.m.f. difference coming from? You need an electron donor and an electron acceptor to make a battery function. Apparently the carbo carries the active ingredients of the electrodes. You can find more at: https://www.google.co.nz/#q=carbon+c...y+cell&tbm=nws -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
On 2014-05-19 21:41:58 +0000, RichA said:
On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. Don't forget to add in the weight of the engine, exhaust system, fuel tank, and alternator. |
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On 20/05/2014 08:17, RichA wrote:
I can't take these happy, happy stories about revolutionary technogies. Remember "fuel cells" for things like cameras, running on alcohol for weeks on one charge? Whatever happened to them? People found a better use for the alcohol and woke up later with no memory of the development? |
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New battery technology - Dual-carbon
On Tue, 20 May 2014 00:17:00 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 7:09:54 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2014 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:03:09 PM UTC-4, Eric Stevens wrote: http://powerjapanplus.com/about/news.html "Power Japan Plus Reveals New Ryden Dual Carbon Battery" New battery design balances the need for cost competitive energy storage that is energy dense, reliable, safe and sustainable" .... more -- Regards, Eric Stevens Still fifty TIMES less efficient by weight than gasoline and FAR more expensive, if they are considering putting it in cars. When was the last time you put gasoline in a camera? :-) I can't take these happy, happy stories about revolutionary technogies. Remember "fuel cells" for things like cameras, running on alcohol for weeks on one charge? Whatever happened to them? I don't know what happened to the cameras but I drank the alcohol. :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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