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More Consequences for Laser pranksters
On 2014-05-16 05:05:52 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:44:56 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-05-16 03:34:40 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Thu, 15 May 2014 18:48:46 -0500, John Turco wrote: On 5/15/2014 7:17 AM, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-05-15 10:53:42 +0000, Whisky-dave said: On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 22:46:03 UTC+1, RichA wrote: Anyone who uses a green laser on a gun is an idiot, it just tells whoever is or might be shooting at you where you are because the beam of a powerful green laser is easily visible at night whereas a red one isn't. Suppose that's the aim (pun intented) in that you want the person to know they are targeted so they surrender. If you don;t want your target to know best to use an IR lasr with IR goggles. It seems to me that there are some folks in this conversation who don't have a clue when it comes to firearms with laser sights. The laser beam trails in the dark is a pure Hollywood affectation. The purpose of such sights is to get good target acquisition in poor light conditions, not to provide a laser light show for the cameras. There are both red and green tactical laser sights, and there are reasons why each might be used. The max power for laser sights is 5mW. In some light conditions a red laser "dot" on the target is less visible to the shooter almost to the point of being useless. This is where the green dot appears more visible to the shooter. Neither sight color is intended to be beneficial to the health & safety of the target subject, and making him/her aware of that dot targeting center of mass, or for the target subject or a counter shooter to locate the shooter, is not the purpose of any laser sight. In an effort to remain on-topic, I offer the Olympus "Stylus SP-100" "super zoom" digicam: Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/compacts/oly_sp100 "The Stylus SP-100 is the world?s first-ever camera with a built-in dot-sight, enabling you to easily track moving subjects, like a soccer game or a flying bird." My D300 has a built in central rectangle which I've been using as a sight ever since I bought the camera. I can't be sure but I think thee was one on my D70 and even my D801s. With my D300S, for any sort of action shots at motor sports events, air shows for planes in flight, and where ever there is movement where tracking is problematic like birds in flight, I use Dynamic area AF with 3D-tracking. Combined with CF and either Cl or Ch depending on situation. This deals with issues such as the target approaching or moving away from the camera at odd angles, or even directly towards the camera. It is tougher than some folks make it sound to keep that single AF point on a fast moving target such as a plane making a low high speed pass. I find that using that method I get a lot more keepers. But even doing it that way you have a central aiming pointt. Not quite. I have a dynamic aiming point. If I trigger the shutter after initial acquisition of the target when using CF + Cl/Ch and Dynamic area AF with 3D-tracking, the camera will switch AF points (up to 51) as you track the target and keep shooting. This is most obvious to me at air shows where I might shoot 5-20 frames per high speed, low level pass that is (0.5-2.5 seconds) and I can see the AF points moving all over the target as it flies by with the captures made. I get a better number of keepers this way. Checking the LCD after the fact will show which AF point was used. Doing things that way can remove a fair amount of operator error. Well, at least it does for me. ;-) Then where you have positioned yourself at track side or on the sidelines can also dictate using single AF points and using traditional panning techniques. As always circumstances and individual comfort zones are going to dictate what you use. It is just good to remember that there are features in cameras such as the D300(S) which are often overlooked , and sometimes might prove to be just what is needed. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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More Consequences for Laser pranksters
On 5/15/2014 8:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-05-15 23:48:46 +0000, John Turco said: In an effort to remain on-topic, I offer the Olympus "Stylus SP-100" "super zoom" digicam: Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/compacts/oly_sp100 "The Stylus SP-100 is the world’s first-ever camera with a built-in dot-sight, enabling you to easily track moving subjects, like a soccer game or a flying bird." A fair enough gimmick. However, the reality of actually tracking a bird in flight, or a plane making a low pass at an air show is something else altogether, and a lot tougher than one would imagine. So, I have found for my purposes the Nikon 3D Dynamic AF tracking system works very well. Indeed it does. -- PeterN |
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More Consequences for Laser pranksters
On 5/16/2014 2:00 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-05-16 05:05:52 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:44:56 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-05-16 03:34:40 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Thu, 15 May 2014 18:48:46 -0500, John Turco wrote: On 5/15/2014 7:17 AM, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-05-15 10:53:42 +0000, Whisky-dave said: On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 22:46:03 UTC+1, RichA wrote: Anyone who uses a green laser on a gun is an idiot, it just tells whoever is or might be shooting at you where you are because the beam of a powerful green laser is easily visible at night whereas a red one isn't. Suppose that's the aim (pun intented) in that you want the person to know they are targeted so they surrender. If you don;t want your target to know best to use an IR lasr with IR goggles. It seems to me that there are some folks in this conversation who don't have a clue when it comes to firearms with laser sights. The laser beam trails in the dark is a pure Hollywood affectation. The purpose of such sights is to get good target acquisition in poor light conditions, not to provide a laser light show for the cameras. There are both red and green tactical laser sights, and there are reasons why each might be used. The max power for laser sights is 5mW. In some light conditions a red laser "dot" on the target is less visible to the shooter almost to the point of being useless. This is where the green dot appears more visible to the shooter. Neither sight color is intended to be beneficial to the health & safety of the target subject, and making him/her aware of that dot targeting center of mass, or for the target subject or a counter shooter to locate the shooter, is not the purpose of any laser sight. In an effort to remain on-topic, I offer the Olympus "Stylus SP-100" "super zoom" digicam: Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/compacts/oly_sp100 "The Stylus SP-100 is the world?s first-ever camera with a built-in dot-sight, enabling you to easily track moving subjects, like a soccer game or a flying bird." My D300 has a built in central rectangle which I've been using as a sight ever since I bought the camera. I can't be sure but I think thee was one on my D70 and even my D801s. With my D300S, for any sort of action shots at motor sports events, air shows for planes in flight, and where ever there is movement where tracking is problematic like birds in flight, I use Dynamic area AF with 3D-tracking. Combined with CF and either Cl or Ch depending on situation. This deals with issues such as the target approaching or moving away from the camera at odd angles, or even directly towards the camera. It is tougher than some folks make it sound to keep that single AF point on a fast moving target such as a plane making a low high speed pass. I find that using that method I get a lot more keepers. But even doing it that way you have a central aiming pointt. Not quite. I have a dynamic aiming point. If I trigger the shutter after initial acquisition of the target when using CF + Cl/Ch and Dynamic area AF with 3D-tracking, the camera will switch AF points (up to 51) as you track the target and keep shooting. This is most obvious to me at air shows where I might shoot 5-20 frames per high speed, low level pass that is (0.5-2.5 seconds) and I can see the AF points moving all over the target as it flies by with the captures made. I get a better number of keepers this way. Checking the LCD after the fact will show which AF point was used. Doing things that way can remove a fair amount of operator error. Well, at least it does for me. ;-) I do pretty much the same, except i get better results using 11 points. -- PeterN |
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