Enerloop batteries overpriced?

In article ,
RichA says...

https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...a-5-batteries/

He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an
expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC.
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Alfred Molon

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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:


https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...-ladda-5-batte
ries/

He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an
expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC.

you have *no* idea how much he paid for his macbook. chances are it
cost *less* than a similar pc laptop.

On 2018-02-17 15:04, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article ,
RichA says...

https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...a-5-batteries/

He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an
expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC.

My last expensive Mac sold, used, after 6 years, for more than people
pay for middle of the road Windows PC's and that cash offset the cost of
this Mac which will eventually sell for more than ... well, you get the
picture.

Never mind the quality of the display on Macs that doesn't come with the
"bundles" that are so appealing with PC offers.

Never mind time saved by not dealing with Windows issues, one after the
next.

Never mind that Apple major OS updates are free.

Never mind that there is a single flavour of Mac OS for all kinds of
use. (None of the low value idiocy of Windows editions (home, student,
professional).

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In article , Alan Browne
says...

My last expensive Mac sold, used, after 6 years, for more than people
pay for middle of the road Windows PC's and that cash offset the cost of
this Mac which will eventually sell for more than ... well, you get the
picture.

Never mind the quality of the display on Macs that doesn't come with the
"bundles" that are so appealing with PC offers.

Never mind time saved by not dealing with Windows issues, one after the
next.

Never mind that Apple major OS updates are free.

Never mind that there is a single flavour of Mac OS for all kinds of
use. (None of the low value idiocy of Windows editions (home, student,
professional).

All these issue do not exist with this PC I'm using right now. And in
any case, after 6 years a PC is totally depreciated and you buy a new
one. 500 Euro every 6 years is not much.

In any case, it's absurd to save a few Euro on some batteries, which are
critical things (poor quality ones tend to run out of power in the worst
possible moments). Better to spend a few more Euro and have reliable
batteries.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those
used in consumer products).
Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or
might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good
idea buying a 6 years old computer.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

My last expensive Mac sold, used, after 6 years, for more than people
pay for middle of the road Windows PC's and that cash offset the cost of
this Mac which will eventually sell for more than ... well, you get the
picture.

Never mind the quality of the display on Macs that doesn't come with the
"bundles" that are so appealing with PC offers.

Never mind time saved by not dealing with Windows issues, one after the
next.

Never mind that Apple major OS updates are free.

Never mind that there is a single flavour of Mac OS for all kinds of
use. (None of the low value idiocy of Windows editions (home, student,
professional).

All these issue do not exist with this PC I'm using right now. And in
any case, after 6 years a PC is totally depreciated and you buy a new
one. 500 Euro every 6 years is not much.

a new mac mini is $499, or about 400 euro.

In any case, it's absurd to save a few Euro on some batteries, which are
critical things (poor quality ones tend to run out of power in the worst
possible moments). Better to spend a few more Euro and have reliable
batteries.

if they are actually identical, then it's absurd to pay extra for the
label on the outside.

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those
used in consumer products).

no they don't.

Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or
might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good
idea buying a 6 years old computer.

nonsense.

On 2018-02-17 23:36:51 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those
used in consumer products).

no they don't.

Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or
might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good
idea buying a 6 years old computer.

nonsense.

Not non sense.The heat of daily use degrades any material like the
transistors in solid state amplifiers. The computer chips are miniatyrs
of traditional circuits and should degrade faste than, let's say my now
de****ed Luxman amp!
:-ppp

http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/232587-luxman_l210_integrated_amp_luxman_t210l_tuner.jpg

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In article , android
wrote:

Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those
used in consumer products).

no they don't.

Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or
might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good
idea buying a 6 years old computer.

nonsense.

Not non sense.

it's nonsense.

The heat of daily use degrades any material like the
transistors in solid state amplifiers.

computers and other electronics last *far* longer than 6 years without
any issue.

electrolytic caps, particularly those from the early '00s, can fail,
but that's an entirely different problem (they were defective) and one
that's easily fixed.

On 17/02/2018 23:30, Alfred Molon wrote:
Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those
used in consumer products).
Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or
might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good
idea buying a 6 years old computer.


That sounds unlikely to me. Do you have any evidence beyond that anecdote?

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Cheers, Rob