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Kodak vs Fuji Frontier
Had a few 8X10 prints made from several local labs, no corrections from the
same file. The 2 best were from "Showcase" and the other was "Hunt color labs" both pro labs in Atlanta. Showcase has a Frontier and Hunt is using a new kodak machine (not sure what model..). I was amazed at how much sharper and cleaner the prints from Hunt were. It's very noticable even at normal viewing distances and even the guy at Hunt was surprised/impressed at how good his looked compared to the Fuji machine. Anyone else ever compared the two? Everyone is always bragging about how great the Frontier machines are, I'm not impressed. -- Stacey |
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Stacey wrote: Had a few 8X10 prints made from several local labs, no corrections from the same file. The 2 best were from "Showcase" and the other was "Hunt color labs" both pro labs in Atlanta. Showcase has a Frontier and Hunt is using a new kodak machine (not sure what model..). I was amazed at how much sharper and cleaner the prints from Hunt were. It's very noticable even at normal viewing distances and even the guy at Hunt was surprised/impressed at how good his looked compared to the Fuji machine. Anyone else ever compared the two? Everyone is always bragging about how great the Frontier machines are, I'm not impressed. There's a lot of image processing and machinery between the original RGB and the film. The quality of a photo depends heavily on how well a print shop keeps their machinery calibrated. |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
In article , Everyone is always bragging about how great the Frontier machines are, I'm not impressed. There's a lot of image processing and machinery between the original RGB and the film. The quality of a photo depends heavily on how well a print shop keeps their machinery calibrated. As far as sharpness? I could see color balance issues etc but I can't see sharpness being a "calibration". And I did try 3 other frontier machines, Showcase's was the best of them. I guess if I hadn't seen the prints from this kodak machine I wouldn't know there was something better? -- Stacey |
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"Stacey" wrote in message ... Kevin McMurtrie wrote: In article , Everyone is always bragging about how great the Frontier machines are, I'm not impressed. There's a lot of image processing and machinery between the original RGB and the film. The quality of a photo depends heavily on how well a print shop keeps their machinery calibrated. As far as sharpness? I could see color balance issues etc but I can't see sharpness being a "calibration". And I did try 3 other frontier machines, Showcase's was the best of them. I guess if I hadn't seen the prints from this kodak machine I wouldn't know there was something better? I've noticed on the local photostore's Frontier that I sometime use, that the Red laser was not 100% aligned with the other two. The Kodak machines are possibly one of the Noritsu line (http://www.noritsu.com/), and they can (depending on model) print at 300 / 320 / 400 / 500 ppi. Bart |
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Bart van der Wolf wrote:
I've noticed on the local photostore's Frontier that I sometime use, that the Red laser was not 100% aligned with the other two. The Kodak machines are possibly one of the Noritsu line (http://www.noritsu.com/), and they can (depending on model) print at 300 / 320 / 400 / 500 ppi. I read somewhere that Kodak was getting AGFA to make some of their machines to their specs? I'll have to ask this guy more about this next time I'm over there. I was amazed how much better this machine worked than the Frontier's that I tried so obviously to me it's worth trying different places and not to assume they are all equal. -- Stacey |
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No way , you must have mixed the copies...
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Dear Stacey
I´m afraid , you must be the only one that is not impressed with Frontier printers , and Fujifilm paper , of course the machines have to be properly calibrated everyday and weekly tested by Fujifilm main lab , besides this detail, we have the different quality photo papers available for both printers . I live in a small town with two shops one working with frontier the other Noritsu . The quality print from Frontier is unbeatable but the person behind the machine counts , you did no corrections ,it does not mean the lab did not do them .I think you have to make further testing if you want to be a little more cientific about the results of your quest. I have been going for the last 10 yrs to Photokina in Germany ( one of the biggest photo shows in the world ) and comparing both machines and prints . |
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.... and by the way if we are speaking sharpness... it is possible one Lab
used software like i2eProfessional image editor or other commonly used to make automatic corrections , one of each is Enhance Sharpness. .... I'm a Frontier fan ... the software could better.Like for adding logos etc..but never inferior in print quality. |
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Mont wrote:
Dear Stacey I´m afraid , you must be the only one that is not impressed with Frontier printers , and Fujifilm paper , Then I guess I'll be the only one. They aren't bad but they weren't nearly as good as the other's results. I think you have to make further testing if you want to be a little more cientific about the results of your quest. Tried 5 different fuji machines, guess they were all "out of calibration"? -- Stacey |
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Stacey wrote:
Mont wrote: Dear Stacey I´m afraid , you must be the only one that is not impressed with Frontier printers , and Fujifilm paper , Then I guess I'll be the only one. They aren't bad but they weren't nearly as good as the other's results. I think you have to make further testing if you want to be a little more cientific about the results of your quest. Tried 5 different fuji machines, guess they were all "out of calibration"? Possibly. Especially if they were all at stores where some 17 year old high school student was responsible for running them. -- Ron Hunter |
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