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Old October 22nd 03, 01:46 AM
Carole
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I'll have to look into watermarking. I've never done it, but I'm sure
there has to be some place on the web where you can learn how to do this?


PWW wrote:
All those special ways to stop copying just doesn't work very well. It seems
that there are ways around all of them. That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a lower
resolution image of not to big of size. I just figure that I have to get my
images out in front of clients and and accept a few thefts from my lower
rez, smaller watermarked images might make them think twice about taking my
images without my permission. I will still go after every single copyright
infringement that I can.


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Old October 22nd 03, 01:56 AM
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Do you use Adobe Photoshop?

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On 10/21/03 8:46 PM, in article ,
"Carole" wrote:

I'll have to look into watermarking. I've never done it, but I'm sure
there has to be some place on the web where you can learn how to do this?


PWW wrote:
All those special ways to stop copying just doesn't work very well. It seems
that there are ways around all of them. That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a lower
resolution image of not to big of size. I just figure that I have to get my
images out in front of clients and and accept a few thefts from my lower
rez, smaller watermarked images might make them think twice about taking my
images without my permission. I will still go after every single copyright
infringement that I can.



  #13  
Old October 22nd 03, 04:31 AM
Phil Stripling
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Carole writes:

Just wondering....I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos? I know about Digimarc,
but I'm not working at present, so $$ are rather tight.


Post the URL of your site, and I'll post copies I've made of the photos. I
am sorry to say that I have a one-button mouse, so right click and wrong
click don't work for me. And yes, Digimarc is very expensive -- not aimed
at good amateurs or solo pros.


What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?


The sad fact is that if it is on the Web it can't _really_ be protected. I
include a copyright notice in each photo, but my stuff is still stolen and
used on other sites. Use low resolution photos, put a copyright notice in
each photo, and provide a link somewhere on your photo pages to a page on
your site where people can easily get information on how to license the use
of your photos. Low res photos will prevent people from making quality
prints, but my experience is that people want photos for their Web sites,
so they don't care too much about quality. Note that this is my experience
with my travel site; I'm not a pro and don't have professional quality
images on the Web.
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Old October 22nd 03, 04:55 AM
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Yes, I have 5.0. Someday when I have money I'll get the new one ))

PWW wrote:
Do you use Adobe Photoshop?


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Old October 22nd 03, 11:00 AM
PWW
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That might be to old for me to comment on. I am sure you can still do it
with PS 5.0 but it might be one photo at a time. With PS 7.0 I know you can
make a droplet and watermark a whole folder of photos at once.

The basic way I do it is. I make all my photos the same dimensions. With the
only difference being Vert or Horiz. Then I open 1 photo with the smallest
edge, (bottom of a Vert being the smallest edge) and make a layer with my
watermark. I then size it, place it and tweak it (opacity), to the effect I
want. I save this file as a PS file and named it 400pxl PSF template. That
way I can open it when ever I want. I then go to the layer that has the
watermark and select all and do a "copy". That saves the watermark in the
clipboard (on a Mac, I am sure Windows has a similar function). From then on
as long as you do not "copy" anything else. You can open any of the Photos
you are ready have sized correctly and do a "paste". And viola. The
watermark is on that one. Save and do the next one. And so on.

With a "droplet" you can make PS actions to do all this for you
automatically. But I do not know if PS 5.0 has that capability.

Hope that helps some.
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Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com


On 10/21/03 11:55 PM, in article
, "Carole"
wrote:

Yes, I have 5.0. Someday when I have money I'll get the new one ))

PWW wrote:
Do you use Adobe Photoshop?



  #16  
Old October 22nd 03, 05:06 PM
Jim
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Not realy. If they have any browser savoy they can 1) grab it from
cach 2) disable javascript 30 use an old browser.

Having said that, I would guess that 90%+ of the uses buy a PC and use
what's been pre-loaded. So for these casual users it is effective.

Jim

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Carole wrote in message ...
Just wondering....I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos? I know about Digimarc,
but I'm not working at present, so $$ are rather tight.

What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?



ralford wrote:
Question - is there any "value" to reduced sized web photos? Certainly a
print couldn't be made of any commercial value, IMHO.

Also, with respect, I find your (PWW) copyright across the heart of the
picture very distracting.

Cheers,

rma

"PWW" wrote in message
...

You have some nice images in there. I might make them smaller, and easier


to

see.

I would also recommend putting a some sort of visible watermark on your
images otherwise they might end up in someone elsešs portfolio.

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PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson)
Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com


On 10/19/03 11:41 PM, in article , "Shu"
wrote:


Sept 2- - Oct 4, 2003, I hiked in Canadian Rockies for two weeks.
Now the photo web for my hiking trip is up on-line.
You are cordially invited to visit the new photo gallery. Hope you will
enjoy the beauties of Canadian Rockies.

http://128.111.124.127/ssr/CanadaRockies.htm

Ronald






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Old October 22nd 03, 05:22 PM
Jim
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dy (Bill Hilton) wrote in message ...
From: Carole


I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos?


I do the same thing, but some browsers (especially Netscape) ignore the
right-click javascript (or at least the script I wrote and even if it works
there are other ways that people can 'take' the image (doing a screen dump or
reading the code to see the path and downloading it from there directly, for
example).


Depends on scrip. The one I use works for Netscape 6.2 and 4.0. It did
not work for 3.0 and earlier. Also if I remeber correctly it worked
back to IE 4.0

Most of the older verson were on an old P90 running W95 that I trashed
about six months ago.


What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?


Some people are going to steal it pretty much no matter what you do (if your
work is good enough). Options are limited since few courts seem to care about
this and it's a hassle finding the right court to even sue in (been thru this a
couple of times already ... do you sue where you live, where they live, or
where the server with the images is located?), or even a lawyer to take up your
case. You can find the server owner using whois and usually a tart note to
them will result in the files being removed quickly since they have more to
lose and nothing to gain but headaches by keeping these disputed files posted,
but if the perp owns his own server (or if it's in Bolivia or Russia or
Timbuktu) and ignores you it's tough to make headway.


That's why you resize to 72 dpi and make small image. So that any 8x10
or larger are pretty useless.


Once a fishing lodge used some of our shots in a catalog and I sent them a
bill, which they actually paid after I explained the ramifications of the new
laws, but if the thief is some numb nuts kid with a vanity site you'll be lucky
just to get the files removed.

Bill



If you put the copyright at the bottom they just crop it ou. If you
put it across the heart if the image you kinf-of destroy the
aesthetics of the image. Many people consider dis-abling the context
menu rude. If you use frames you can locallize it to just the images
and leave it active for the rest of the site. But, the use of frame
while making nagivation much easier has it's own list of issues.

All part of the fun of a designing photography site. Trade-off at
every turn.

The Rockie image are very nice.

Jim

*----------------------------------------------------------------*
* Check-out my web site at:
http://SwensonStudio.com *
* landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets *
*----------------------------------------------------------------*


Jim
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Old October 22nd 03, 05:22 PM
Jim
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dy (Bill Hilton) wrote in message ...
From: Carole


I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos?


I do the same thing, but some browsers (especially Netscape) ignore the
right-click javascript (or at least the script I wrote and even if it works
there are other ways that people can 'take' the image (doing a screen dump or
reading the code to see the path and downloading it from there directly, for
example).


Depends on scrip. The one I use works for Netscape 6.2 and 4.0. It did
not work for 3.0 and earlier. Also if I remeber correctly it worked
back to IE 4.0

Most of the older verson were on an old P90 running W95 that I trashed
about six months ago.


What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?


Some people are going to steal it pretty much no matter what you do (if your
work is good enough). Options are limited since few courts seem to care about
this and it's a hassle finding the right court to even sue in (been thru this a
couple of times already ... do you sue where you live, where they live, or
where the server with the images is located?), or even a lawyer to take up your
case. You can find the server owner using whois and usually a tart note to
them will result in the files being removed quickly since they have more to
lose and nothing to gain but headaches by keeping these disputed files posted,
but if the perp owns his own server (or if it's in Bolivia or Russia or
Timbuktu) and ignores you it's tough to make headway.


That's why you resize to 72 dpi and make small image. So that any 8x10
or larger are pretty useless.


Once a fishing lodge used some of our shots in a catalog and I sent them a
bill, which they actually paid after I explained the ramifications of the new
laws, but if the thief is some numb nuts kid with a vanity site you'll be lucky
just to get the files removed.

Bill



If you put the copyright at the bottom they just crop it ou. If you
put it across the heart if the image you kinf-of destroy the
aesthetics of the image. Many people consider dis-abling the context
menu rude. If you use frames you can locallize it to just the images
and leave it active for the rest of the site. But, the use of frame
while making nagivation much easier has it's own list of issues.

All part of the fun of a designing photography site. Trade-off at
every turn.

The Rockie image are very nice.

Jim

*----------------------------------------------------------------*
* Check-out my web site at:
http://SwensonStudio.com *
* landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets *
*----------------------------------------------------------------*


Jim
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Old October 22nd 03, 05:57 PM
Jim
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The software (shareware) that I looked at was picture-shark. You can
down load it from download.com. It will watermark images a directory
at a time. You can also do it in PS, but I think it only does one
image at a time. When you have a lot of images the directory feature
is a must.

Jim


*----------------------------------------------------------------*
* Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com *
* landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets. *
*----------------------------------------------------------------*

Carole wrote in message ...
I'll have to look into watermarking. I've never done it, but I'm sure
there has to be some place on the web where you can learn how to do this?


PWW wrote:
All those special ways to stop copying just doesn't work very well. It seems
that there are ways around all of them. That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a lower
resolution image of not to big of size. I just figure that I have to get my
images out in front of clients and and accept a few thefts from my lower
rez, smaller watermarked images might make them think twice about taking my
images without my permission. I will still go after every single copyright
infringement that I can.

 




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