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The Instamatic of Today
Don't be afraid of using it. The smartphone that is. It just as good as
the old pocket instamatic... And you can Photoshop in "camera"! Picture taken with a Xperia M4... Vanilla jpeg and Photoshop Express pimped: http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography The best camera is the one that you have with you! -- teleportation kills |
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| Don't be afraid of using it. The smartphone that is.
The other day I watched as a friend tried to attach his new system of multiple lenses to the back of an iPhone. I wondered: Since it's digital, is megapixels all that really matters? Does it really make sense to invest in a telephoto lens for an iPhone rather than to buy a good camera? It seemed silly, but I don't know enough to judge. I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. |
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wrote: | Don't be afraid of using it. The smartphone that is. The other day I watched as a friend tried to attach his new system of multiple lenses to the back of an iPhone. I wondered: Since it's digital, is megapixels all that really matters? megapixels is just one thing that matters, and at this point, there's more than enough for most purposes because people don't print huge images. they send them via text message or look at them on a computer. low noise, colour accuracy and wide dynamic range are as important, if not more important. Does it really make sense to invest in a telephoto lens for an iPhone rather than to buy a good camera? It seemed silly, but I don't know enough to judge. for some people it might be, because they won't need to carry a second camera. plus, iphone accessory lenses are small. accessory lenses for compact p&s cameras were also common, back when people used to use p&s cameras. now they use phones. it's obviously not going to match the quality of an slr (nor would anyone expect that), but it's less expensive, a lot more portable and probably good enough. I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. lots of things do and it's not the same for everyone. |
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:13:55 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. I'm in the camp that would say sensor size is the main thing now. With the major brands, everything else is comparable, and more than acceptable to most. We know that sensor size is going to determine the quality of large prints, but what's most important to some of us is low light image quality. At the same time, neither of those is important to lots of people. I think the minimum is APS-C, but some of the posters here who ain't exactly newbies, are happy with 4/3 cameras. The excuse for anything smaller is that at least you have it with you, and it's perfectly valid, too, but those sensors are very limiting. Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong with any name brand camera these days, and 90% of buyers would never see any differences among them. |
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On 2015-09-19 05:17:29 +0000, RichA said:
On Friday, 18 September 2015 14:08:39 UTC-4, Bill W wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:13:55 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. I'm in the camp that would say sensor size is the main thing now. With the major brands, everything else is comparable, and more than acceptable to most. We know that sensor size is going to determine the quality of large prints, but what's most important to some of us is low light image quality. At the same time, neither of those is important to lots of people. I think the minimum is APS-C, but some of the posters here who ain't exactly newbies, are happy with 4/3 cameras. The excuse for anything smaller is that at least you have it with you, and it's perfectly valid, too Or, it's laziness or fear of carrying a real camera into various places. People are trend-driven and self-conscious. I have become fond of my X-E2. The weight reduction from my D300S + battery grip is remarkable, and the X-E2 has become my carry everywhere camera. It is APS-C and produces images the equal (or better) to the D300S. I can slip an extra lens into a pocket without any trouble. ....and for those moments I don't have a "real" camera with me, I have my iPhone. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 19/09/2015 06:35, Savageduck wrote:
[] I have become fond of my X-E2. The weight reduction from my D300S + battery grip is remarkable, and the X-E2 has become my carry everywhere camera. It is APS-C and produces images the equal (or better) to the D300S. I can slip an extra lens into a pocket without any trouble. ...and for those moments I don't have a "real" camera with me, I have my iPhone. Same he Panasonic GX7 (micro-four-thirds) with 10:1 zoom compared to Nikon D5200 & 10:1 zoom, extra lenses like the Olympus 9-18 mm zoom, and 9 mm fisheye are no size or weight at all. "Moments" can be caught on the Moto G3 phone. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On 2015-09-19 06:09:59 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:35:10 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-09-19 05:17:29 +0000, RichA said: On Friday, 18 September 2015 14:08:39 UTC-4, Bill W wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:13:55 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. I'm in the camp that would say sensor size is the main thing now. With the major brands, everything else is comparable, and more than acceptable to most. We know that sensor size is going to determine the quality of large prints, but what's most important to some of us is low light image quality. At the same time, neither of those is important to lots of people. I think the minimum is APS-C, but some of the posters here who ain't exactly newbies, are happy with 4/3 cameras. The excuse for anything smaller is that at least you have it with you, and it's perfectly valid, too Or, it's laziness or fear of carrying a real camera into various places. People are trend-driven and self-conscious. I have become fond of my X-E2. The weight reduction from my D300S + battery grip is remarkable, and the X-E2 has become my carry everywhere camera. It is APS-C and produces images the equal (or better) to the D300S. I can slip an extra lens into a pocket without any trouble. ...and for those moments I don't have a "real" camera with me, I have my iPhone. I don't think you need to own a X-E2 to have a very suitable substitute for a "real" camera. Many of the p&s, or compact, cameras in the $100 to $150 range provide very good images in certain situations. Rich is the individual who brought "real" camera into the conversation, hence the way I typed it. I fully accept compacts as "real" cameras. My other lifeboat camera is a Canon G-11 which has served me well, especially on that South Africa trip when it was all I had for the last week there. If you step up the price a little bit, and get one that has the ability to shoot in RAW (as mine does), a compact camera can produce excellent results in certain situations. Yup! Last night we went out to dinner to celebrate the birthday of one of my grandsons. I took my compact into the restaurant and came away with some snaps that are quite acceptable. My dslr would have been overkill. An appropriate time for a compact, the X-E2 is certainly small enough for that task. It compares quite well with my G-11. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w6qjeduiyrnsn9u/AABNbvuMPxc7pER1bNzPR6fAa?dl=0 The grandson, by the way, was taking iPhone snaps with his iPhone5 (or 5s, I'm not sure) on a selfie rod using a remote device. He turned it to get the whole table of seven people. I saw them only in the phone, but they looked pretty good. The iPhone 5(S) has an acceptable camera, the iP6S is even better. Rich might even deem it a "real" camera if he would get over his anti-Apple issue. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2015-09-19 06:45:36 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:34:16 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Last night we went out to dinner to celebrate the birthday of one of my grandsons. I took my compact into the restaurant and came away with some snaps that are quite acceptable. My dslr would have been overkill. An appropriate time for a compact, the X-E2 is certainly small enough for that task. It compares quite well with my G-11. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w6qjeduiyrnsn9u/AABNbvuMPxc7pER1bNzPR6fAa?dl=0 That's more kit than I would want to carry into a crowded restaurant. And, I mean just the body and one lens. My compact slips into a shirt pocket. ....but you see what I mean with the size comparison. These days unless I have something specific in mind the X-E2 is the go to camera and the D300S stays at home. And, it's not like this is the only opportunity I have for family photographs. One shot in the book of the grandson on his birthday is all I wanted. I'll be photographing him and his brother tomorrow when they play football, and Sunday when he's having a paintball gun party with friends. Be careful, you might become the designated target in a freefire zone. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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RichA wrote: On Friday, 18 September 2015 14:08:39 UTC-4, Bill W wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:13:55 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: I'd be interested to see a discussion of that: What, besides the basic light sensor, makes the camera. I'm in the camp that would say sensor size is the main thing now. With the major brands, everything else is comparable, and more than acceptable to most. We know that sensor size is going to determine the quality of large prints, but what's most important to some of us is low light image quality. At the same time, neither of those is important to lots of people. I think the minimum is APS-C, but some of the posters here who ain't exactly newbies, are happy with 4/3 cameras. The excuse for anything smaller is that at least you have it with you, and it's perfectly valid, too Or, it's laziness or fear of carrying a real camera into various places. People are trend-driven and self-conscious. I think that half frame is the minimum for a serious camera too. But for those that are contended with jpegs you can go along way with with a phone these days. And sometimes it might be all you got. I think mFT is a halfway house that makes few happy. Bigger is better, but something is better than nothing. I usually have the EOS-M with the 22mm in my bag. -- teleportation kills |
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On 20/09/2015 05:33, android wrote:
[] I think that half frame is the minimum for a serious camera too. But for those that are contended with jpegs you can go along way with with a phone these days. And sometimes it might be all you got. I think mFT is a halfway house that makes few happy. Bigger is better, but something is better than nothing. I usually have the EOS-M with the 22mm in my bag. Have you used a recent mFT system at all? Do you have direct personal experience over an extended period? If you did, you might have a different opinion...... -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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