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On 2018-05-15 20:45:00 +0000, newshound said:
On 11/05/2018 05:50, android wrote: http://www.canonrumors.com/well-here...r-canon-glass/ Much as it pains me to say so, you have to admit that if you are only viewing on a good PC monitor or ordinary HD TV, phone sensors and processors do a pretty good job these days. Back to the classic Bert Hardy "Box Brownie" demonstration, it is the photographer who takes the picture, not the camera! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Youp! If your Pocket Instamatic kept you happy then your iPhone or Xperia will too. Me mom was very proud of the Agfa Optima 5000 that gifted her! -- teleportation kills |
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 23:01:16 -0400, Davoud wrote:
Ron C: Ah yes, quantity vs quality. Been seeing a lot of that in the music industry for some time now. Hmm, also seen with TV along the lines of 500 channels and nothing worth watching. [YMMV] Davoud: Being a bit snooty, aren't we? My mileage has varied a great deal. It's not quantity vs quality; for hundreds of millions of people it's camera vs no camera. And an awful lot of those people are taking great pictures. These, e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...one-photos-of- 2017_us_5953d2aee4b05c37bb7b3e8f. And in video, the Oscar-winning movie shot in part on an iPhone https://nofilmschool.com/2013/03/oscar-searching-sugar-man-shot-iphone. So stow the smugness. It's still the photographer, not the camera. Ron C: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Do you really think that's an issue with the hundreds of millions of people around the world--especially the poor--whose lives have been enriched by smartphones and their cameras? I don't see it. I just see people living their lives pretty much as always. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: Davoud: Being a bit snooty, aren't we? My mileage has varied a great deal. It's not quantity vs quality; for hundreds of millions of people it's camera vs no camera. And an awful lot of those people are taking great pictures. These, e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...one-photos-of- 2017_us_5953d2aee4b05c37bb7b3e8f. And in video, the Oscar-winning movie shot in part on an iPhone https://nofilmschool.com/2013/03/oscar-searching-sugar-man-shot-iphone. So stow the smugness. It's still the photographer, not the camera. Ron C: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:43:30 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: Davoud: Being a bit snooty, aren't we? My mileage has varied a great deal. It's not quantity vs quality; for hundreds of millions of people it's camera vs no camera. And an awful lot of those people are taking great pictures. These, e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...one-photos-of- 2017_us_5953d2aee4b05c37bb7b3e8f. And in video, the Oscar-winning movie shot in part on an iPhone https://nofilmschool.com/2013/03/oscar-searching-sugar-man-shot-iphone. So stow the smugness. It's still the photographer, not the camera. Ron C: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. i was responding to the stupidity of the above comment. |
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Eric Stevens:
The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966 to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages can afford to share one. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:31:43 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:43:30 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: Davoud: Being a bit snooty, aren't we? My mileage has varied a great deal. It's not quantity vs quality; for hundreds of millions of people it's camera vs no camera. And an awful lot of those people are taking great pictures. These, e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...one-photos-of- 2017_us_5953d2aee4b05c37bb7b3e8f. And in video, the Oscar-winning movie shot in part on an iPhone https://nofilmschool.com/2013/03/oscar-searching-sugar-man-shot-iphone. So stow the smugness. It's still the photographer, not the camera. Ron C: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote:
Eric Stevens: The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966 to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages can afford to share one. I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: I was thinking more of the psycho-social impact where the experience is being supplanted by the need to document. I have no problem with great, or even spectacular photos are frequently captured on a phone. I do worry a bit about the seeming obsession to document life rather than live it in real time. The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. so what? they won't be buying a camera either. You shouldn't have snipped the final paragraph. And I was responding to "the stupidity" (although I wouldn't call it that) of the comment in the snipped paragraph. There are many parts of the world where the people are so poor that a person who can afford a smartphone or camera is regarded as wealthy. then they won't be choosing which one to buy, will they? |
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On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, Davoud wrote: Eric Stevens: The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to owning a smart phone. Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966 to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages can afford to share one. I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera. Somehow this has twisted from my "1st world" problem/irritation to one of "3rd world" enrichment. I find it hard to imagine that any of these ultra-poor folks are likely to have any "Canon Glass" to use on their smartphones. ~~ To my point maybe check out Savageduck's comment in the " Which would more likely drive someone to a phone camera?" thread. -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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