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I'm confused - I have a Canon Ixux 500 which produces perfectly adequate point'n'shoot snaps. I used to have a Nikon D40 but found it a bit big and heavy to carry around and didn't really "satisfy" me when taking photos. I bought my nine year old a second hand Olympus Trip 35 and took a couple of snaps with it and there's something about "making " a photo in 35mm that digital hasn't (yet) made me feel. I don't want to go back to 35mm. So - I've been looking around at some of the hybrids (like the Fuji Finepix S9600) that are a little smaller than a DSLR but ought to give me more control and a more "making not taking the picture" kind of feel. But - I wonder if anyone has any advise on what to buy? I'm in the UK and would ideally want to spend under £250.00. Won't be producing prints over 10x8, so 6MP or so ought to be adequate but of course, more may be better. Any ideas? Thanks. |
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Bryan Anderson wrote:
I'm confused - I have a Canon Ixux 500 which produces perfectly adequate point'n'shoot snaps. I used to have a Nikon D40 but found it a bit big and heavy to carry around and didn't really "satisfy" me when taking photos. I bought my nine year old a second hand Olympus Trip 35 and took a couple of snaps with it and there's something about "making " a photo in 35mm that digital hasn't (yet) made me feel. I don't want to go back to 35mm. So - I've been looking around at some of the hybrids (like the Fuji Finepix S9600) that are a little smaller than a DSLR but ought to give me more control and a more "making not taking the picture" kind of feel. But - I wonder if anyone has any advise on what to buy? I'm in the UK and would ideally want to spend under £250.00. Won't be producing prints over 10x8, so 6MP or so ought to be adequate but of course, more may be better. Any ideas? I went the same route and decided on a Panasonic DMC FZ18. Last Christmas they completely sold out. There are hundred of reviews out there, here is one; http://www.cameras.co.uk/reviews/panasonic-dmc-fz18.cfm I'm pleased with it. The iso 100 and 200 modes are very good, so I tend to keep it locked in those for the better stuff. The big zoom lens is super impressive. |
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"Bryan Anderson" wrote in message ... I'm confused - I have a Canon Ixux 500 which produces perfectly adequate point'n'shoot snaps. I used to have a Nikon D40 but found it a bit big and heavy to carry around and didn't really "satisfy" me when taking photos. I bought my nine year old a second hand Olympus Trip 35 and took a couple of snaps with it and there's something about "making " a photo in 35mm that digital hasn't (yet) made me feel. I don't want to go back to 35mm. So - I've been looking around at some of the hybrids (like the Fuji Finepix S9600) that are a little smaller than a DSLR but ought to give me more control and a more "making not taking the picture" kind of feel. But - I wonder if anyone has any advise on what to buy? I'm in the UK and would ideally want to spend under £250.00. Won't be producing prints over 10x8, so 6MP or so ought to be adequate but of course, more may be better. Any ideas? Thanks. A Canon G9 can be had for less than £270, if you're willing to go the extra 20 quid. HTH Deep. |
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Bryan Anderson wrote: I'm confused - I have a Canon Ixux 500 which produces perfectly adequate point'n'shoot snaps. I used to have a Nikon D40 but found it a bit big and heavy to carry around and didn't really "satisfy" me when taking photos. I bought my nine year old a second hand Olympus Trip 35 and took a couple of snaps with it and there's something about "making " a photo in 35mm that digital hasn't (yet) made me feel. I don't want to go back to 35mm. So - I've been looking around at some of the hybrids (like the Fuji Finepix S9600) that are a little smaller than a DSLR but ought to give me more control and a more "making not taking the picture" kind of feel. But - I wonder if anyone has any advise on what to buy? I'm in the UK and would ideally want to spend under £250.00. Won't be producing prints over 10x8, so 6MP or so ought to be adequate but of course, more may be better. Any ideas? Sure. Check out the camera reviews on http://www.dpreview.com |
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Shawn wrote on Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:38:27 -0400:
I don't intend to be sarcastic but "hybrid" is a new term for me if it describes a non-mirror digital slr. Has it been generally accepted? There is a not very active r.p.d.zlr group that seems to cover them but I would have thought that the existing r.p.d.slr-systems would be enough. "Reflex" does not seem to require an analog mirror to me. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
Shawn wrote on Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:38:27 -0400: I don't intend to be sarcastic but "hybrid" is a new term for me if it describes a non-mirror digital slr. Has it been generally accepted? On the dpreview forums the term "EVIL" camera (electronic viewfinder interchangeable lens) has been used for a few years to describe this type of camera in various discussions. Phil Askley put up (on Tuesday, 5 August) the Olympus announcement about the proposed Micro FourThirds system http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08080501microfourthirds.asp, but there still is no manufacturer defined term for this general type of camera. There is a not very active r.p.d.zlr group It's been dead almost since it was created. Well to be more accurate, more like less than a few months after it's creation all the original posting (there is still some cross-posting) to it petered out completely. Considering that the term "zlr camera" was coined by Olympus to describe their IS series of fixed (non-interchangeable) zoom lens film SLR cameras and used the same term to describe their fixed zoom lens DSLR cameras (such as the D600L and E-20), there must have been some resistance to using the same term for EVF digicams (or "bridge" digicams) which are externally shaped and styled to vaguely resemble a SLR camera (a good example is the Fujifilm FinePix S100FS) but have no actual optical reflex viewfinder. that seems to cover them but I would have thought that the existing r.p.d.slr-systems would be enough. "Reflex" does not seem to require an analog mirror to me. There is no analogue of a mirror in a SLR camera (film or digital), there is an actual mirror (or other reflective surface, such as a beamsplitter prism as found in the Olympus E-10 and E-20) to redirect the image onto the focus screen in the viewfinder. |
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dj_nme wrote on Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:56:40 +1000:
James Silverton wrote: that seems to cover them but I would have thought that the existing r.p.d.slr-systems would be enough. "Reflex" does not seem to require an analog mirror to me. There is no analogue of a mirror in a SLR camera (film or digital), there is an actual mirror (or other reflective surface, such as a beamsplitter prism as found in the Olympus E-10 and E-20) to redirect the image onto the focus screen in the viewfinder. Fair enough but I was, perhaps imprecisely, using "analog" in the sense of a non-digital, mechanical method to direct the image to the eyepiece. I don't how Olympus' semireflecting mirror would be classified. .. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
dj_nme wrote on Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:56:40 +1000: James Silverton wrote: that seems to cover them but I would have thought that the existing r.p.d.slr-systems would be enough. "Reflex" does not seem to require an analog mirror to me. There is no analogue of a mirror in a SLR camera (film or digital), there is an actual mirror (or other reflective surface, such as a beamsplitter prism as found in the Olympus E-10 and E-20) to redirect the image onto the focus screen in the viewfinder. Fair enough but I was, perhaps imprecisely, using "analog" in the sense of a non-digital, mechanical method to direct the image to the eyepiece. I don't how Olympus' semireflecting mirror would be classified. The same as the Canon Pellix and EOS-1n RS, they're still SLR cameras. Even if the lens can't be interchanged, as in the case of the Olympus ZLR cameras. |
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dj_nme wrote on Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:11:02 +1000:
James Silverton wrote: dj_nme wrote on Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:56:40 +1000: James Silverton wrote: that seems to cover them but I would have thought that the existing r.p.d.slr-systems would be enough. "Reflex" does not seem to require an analog mirror to me. There is no analogue of a mirror in a SLR camera (film or digital), there is an actual mirror (or other reflective surface, such as a beamsplitter prism as found in the Olympus E-10 and E-20) to redirect the image onto the focus screen in the viewfinder. Fair enough but I was, perhaps imprecisely, using "analog" in the sense of a non-digital, mechanical method to direct the image to the eyepiece. I don't how Olympus' semireflecting mirror would be classified. The same as the Canon Pellix and EOS-1n RS, they're still SLR cameras.Even if the lens can't be interchanged, as in the case of the Olympus ZLR cameras. No argument! I suppose the distinction might be between mechanical (eg. moving mirror) and digital reflex cameras. I don't think there is a digital viewfinder that fully compares with a mirror but it will happen, I believe. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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James Silverton wrote:
dj_nme wrote on Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:11:02 +1000: James Silverton wrote: snip Fair enough but I was, perhaps imprecisely, using "analog" in the sense of a non-digital, mechanical method to direct the image to the eyepiece. I don't how Olympus' semireflecting mirror would be classified. The same as the Canon Pellix and EOS-1n RS, they're still SLR cameras.Even if the lens can't be interchanged, as in the case of the Olympus ZLR cameras. No argument! I suppose the distinction might be between mechanical (eg. moving mirror) and digital reflex cameras. I don't think there is a digital viewfinder that fully compares with a mirror but it will happen, I believe. Maybe. Hopefully the Olympus Mu4/3 cameras will have something suitable? The best EVF that I've used is on the Konica-Minolta Dimage A2, it was/is 640x480 pixel (300k pixels, but marketed as 900K pixels by counting the RGB sub-pixels) and even that really is nowhere close to being useful for manual focus without the "focus zoom" trick that a lot of this type of camera (bridge/EVF digicam) have. A proper replacement for an optical TTL viewfinder (as found in a [d]slr camera) would have to be of very high resolution. Perhaps at least 1200k pixels (at least twice the linear resolution of the A2's EVF) and maybe a lot more to be as good as an average SLR viewfinder. |
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