$500 REWARD FOR IDENTITY OF TROLL

why is this cross-posted to rec.photo.digital?

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Big Bill wrote:
|It's not Google's problem.
|
|Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from
|Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing
|victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against
|the troll.
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|If the trail ends at an ISp that doesn't control who uses it as an
|open relay, then Google, if subpoenaed, would run into that same dead
|end, wouldn't it?

You've still got to subpoena every newsadmin in charge of every
newsserver "represented" in the alleged path to reach the exculpating
"dead end," don't you?

|So how is Google preventing victims from finding the perp?

Google has a multi-million dollar insurance policy, doesn't it?

Matthew Montchalin writes:

That sounds a lot like that scheme that the other guy dreamed up a few
years ago, with his "assassination politics" plan. And he ended up
going to prison - federal prison, I think - just for discussing it,
didn't he? If I recall rightly, he wanted to combine a national lottery
system with an ultimate prize of assassinating anyone anywhere, based
only on the rough consensus of other like-minded anonymous individuals
banding together, presumably funded through Paypal (or some other
means), and circulated through Google, I guess. I think you should not
advocate that sort of thing. Not just because it's a bad idea, but just
merely JOKING about that sort of thing, out of bad taste, can bring
you down as well. And the same goes for character assassination, too.

Put more simply, discussing it establishes premeditation. Someone who
threatens violence in writing and then commits violence later cannot
easily claim that it was a "crime of passion," since he clearly
discussed it and contemplated it far in advance. And USENET posts live
forever.

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Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that:

Lionel writes:

Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from
Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing
victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against
the troll.

Have the posts been judged defamatory in court?

You haven't been following the numerous threads on this topic?

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Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that:

Lionel writes:

Actually, it /is/ Googles problem, because the troll is posting from
Google itself, not from some random news service, & Google is preventing
victims of the troll's defamatory posts from taking legal action against
the troll.

Have the posts been judged defamatory in court?

You haven't been following the numerous threads on this topic?

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\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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Lionel writes:

You haven't been following the numerous threads on this topic?

No. Have the posts been judge defamatory in court?

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[NANAU added, for the benfit of the people there who've been asking
similar questions.]

Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that:

Lionel writes:

You haven't been following the numerous threads on this topic?

No.

Then I suggest that you research them. I have better things to do with
my time than to rehash several months worth of discussion for everybody
in about a dozen groups who's finding this thread for the first time.

Regarding the questions some people have been asking about the liability
of Google, vs that of other news providers, those go into legal
arguments that I will not be discussing publicly at all, at this time.

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[NANAU added, for the benfit of the people there who've been asking
similar questions.]

Kibo informs me that Mxsmanic stated that:

Lionel writes:

You haven't been following the numerous threads on this topic?

No.

Then I suggest that you research them. I have better things to do with
my time than to rehash several months worth of discussion for everybody
in about a dozen groups who's finding this thread for the first time.

Regarding the questions some people have been asking about the liability
of Google, vs that of other news providers, those go into legal
arguments that I will not be discussing publicly at all, at this time.

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W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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I'm pretty sure it came from Taco Bell...

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I will pay $500 via PayPal for solid evidence telling me who posted this.
You can use a hotmail account and hide your identity.


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Lionel writes:

Then I suggest that you research them. I have better things to do with
my time than to rehash several months worth of discussion for everybody
in about a dozen groups who's finding this thread for the first time.

And yet here you are, doing just that. Nobody forces you to reply.

Regarding the questions some people have been asking about the liability
of Google, vs that of other news providers, those go into legal
arguments that I will not be discussing publicly at all, at this time.

You just did.

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:56:22 +0000, ymous wrote:


I will pay $500 via PayPal for solid evidence telling me who posted this.
You can use a hotmail account and hide your identity.

Hello Peter, it was me. ;-)