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  #61  
Old June 6th 14, 10:57 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_4_]
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

On 6/5/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:36:19 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
: On 6/5/2014 11:00 AM, Savageduck wrote:
:
:
: snip
:
:
: Provided you haven't overwritten or formatted the card, recovery might
: be possiblity. A search for photo recovery software will reveal a whole
: bunch of options. Your problem is going to be finding one which runs on
: Linux. The other is any thing else you might have done with your phone
: which wrote to the SD card.
: http://bit.ly/1kN95Tn
:
:
: That's not the law in NY. With certain exceptions, I have an absolute
: right to photograph anything in plain sight, even if it is on private
: property. There are definite legal restrictions on what I am permitted
: to do with my image. But, that should not be confused with my right to
: take the picture.

And anytime someone tries to force you to do anything, tell him to call the
police. Or just do it yourself, taking advantage of one of the benefits of the
cell phone era.


In a small store I purchased something using my credit card. The manager
wanted identification. I showed him my Drivers License, but held on to
it. The ******* grabbed it out of my hand and started to write down my
number. I immediately called the police, and got back my credit card and
license, plus I insisted he give my the piece of paper he wrote my
number on. I then called Amex and told them what happened. I know that
Amex stopped doing business with him. The store was out of business
within a few months. Yes, I will stand up for my rights. Asking for
identification is not unreasonable, but writing down information from
it, is not something a merchant should do.


--
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  #62  
Old June 6th 14, 11:02 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_4_]
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

On 6/6/2014 2:25 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-06-06 06:11:45 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 20:00:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

the fact that they 'made' him delete something tells me they want to
hide whatever it was that he saw and because it could turn out bad for
them. otherwise, why would they care?

That is conjecture on our part. Regardless the evidence captured in
that photograph is for now unavailable. To my suspicious mind there is
more to this story than the OP is telling us, and I have a feeling he
arrived at the Referee Smog Station with a problem vehicle and an
attitude.


My guess too: attitude. One of those incidents escalated by
attitude.

What he can't do is
confiscate the photographer's property, such as have him delete the
image files.

correct.


Nothing was confiscated. Confiscation requires the seizing of
property and retaining it.


Well, he was deprived of use of his property, the image file.
Technically not confiscation, but forced destruction.


A wrong for which there is no practical remedy.


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  #63  
Old June 6th 14, 11:08 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
J. Clarke[_2_]
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

In article ,
says...

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:18:57 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-06-05 19:36:19 +0000, PeterN said:

On 6/5/2014 11:00 AM, Savageduck wrote:


snip


Provided you haven't overwritten or formatted the card, recovery might
be possiblity. A search for photo recovery software will reveal a whole
bunch of options. Your problem is going to be finding one which runs on
Linux. The other is any thing else you might have done with your phone
which wrote to the SD card.
http://bit.ly/1kN95Tn


That's not the law in NY. With certain exceptions, I have an absolute
right to photograph anything in plain sight, even if it is on private
property.

Agreed, but what if you are standing on that private property while
photographing those targets in plain sight. You can shoot at whatever
from public property bordering on that private property if it is in
plain sight, but once you cross that threshold it becomes a different
question. I suspect the OP was on private property, and if he had
continued to take photographs while on that property he could well be
excluded as a trespasser.

There are definite legal restrictions on what I am permitted to do with
my image. But, that should not be confused with my right to take the
picture.

He has no implied right to photograph while he is standing on private
property without the approval of the property owner or proprietor. Move
back onto the public sidewalk, and if his target is still in plain
sight, there is no argument. Then he can shoot to his heart's content.


What about the right of the individual photographed to decline to wish
to be photographed?

When doing street photography, any individual who indicates to me that
they do not want to be photographed is not photographed. If I've
already taken the photograph, and that person asks me to delete it, I
do it. I don't object, I don't argue, I just delete.

It's common courtesy and respect for the other person. The subject
can declare that it's his own personal policy not to be photographed.

*Where* the photograph is taken has nothing to do with it. Public
property, private property...it's all the same to me.

There are conditions under which I would not comply. If the person is
committing a crime or abusing some other person or animal, I would not
afford that person with the courtesy I'd afford someone else.

The OP indicated that the person was doing something "inappropriate",
but that doesn't necessarily mean that the action was so inappropriate
that the subject can't decline to have his photograph taken.

The feeling in this group is that the photographer is always in the
right. That's not really always the case.


+1. This is the difference between what it legal and what is "ethical", if
I may use that word. You're talking about a matter of civility and
courtesy. Perhaps I've grown cynical over the years but I would say that
civility and courtesy are not in evidence as they used to be. Many are just
too selfish to consider anyone else's feeling or wishes.


And it is that situation that leads to what used to be courtesy being
codified as law or formalized in contracts, to the detriment of all.


  #64  
Old June 6th 14, 11:22 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
Floyd L. Davidson
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

PeterN wrote:
On 6/5/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:36:19 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
: On 6/5/2014 11:00 AM, Savageduck wrote:
:
:
: snip
:
:
: Provided you haven't overwritten or formatted the card, recovery might
: be possiblity. A search for photo recovery software will reveal a whole
: bunch of options. Your problem is going to be finding one which runs on
: Linux. The other is any thing else you might have done with your phone
: which wrote to the SD card.
: http://bit.ly/1kN95Tn
:
:
: That's not the law in NY. With certain exceptions, I have an absolute
: right to photograph anything in plain sight, even if it is on private
: property. There are definite legal restrictions on what I am permitted
: to do with my image. But, that should not be confused with my right to
: take the picture.

And anytime someone tries to force you to do anything, tell him to call the
police. Or just do it yourself, taking advantage of one of the benefits of the
cell phone era.


In a small store I purchased something using my credit
card. The manager wanted identification. I showed him my
Drivers License, but held on to it. The ******* grabbed
it out of my hand and started to write down my number. I
immediately called the police, and got back my credit
card and license, plus I insisted he give my the piece
of paper he wrote my number on. I then called Amex and
told them what happened. I know that Amex stopped doing
business with him. The store was out of business within
a few months. Yes, I will stand up for my rights. Asking
for identification is not unreasonable, but writing down
information from it, is not something a merchant should
do.


Bravo!

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
  #65  
Old June 7th 14, 12:59 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
Daniel James
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

In article , Silent Knight wrote:
I took a picture at the bar referee smog station of ...


I find it fascinating that this has (already) led to a thread of 75+
posts, most of which have nothing to do with the question being asked
and everything to do with the reason that the OP asked it.

Had the OP simply asked: "I have taken a photograph on my phone and
have unfortunately deleted it. Is there any way that I can get it back.
The phone is a Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3 and the picture was saved
on the SD card. I use Ubuntu Linux." he would have had a handful or
relevant replies and that would have been that.

Because he went into all the irrelevant stuff about a "smog station"
and "inappropriate action" this has become a much larger thread and all
sorts of issues have been discussed.

I love that about usenet -- but it does show that you have to be
careful to ask the question you mean to ask if you hope to get a simple
answer (mine would be: "testdisk").

I'm British, and the phrase "bar referee smog station" meant absolutely
nothing to me ... I gather now that it's somewhere one has to take a
vehicle to have the engine emissions checked, but my first thought was
that the OP was talking about some sort of shelter outside a bar where
smokers could go to indulge their addiction.

Two nations divided by a common language, eh?
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  #66  
Old June 7th 14, 02:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

On 07/06/2014 12:59, Daniel James wrote:
[]
I'm British, and the phrase "bar referee smog station" meant absolutely
nothing to me ... I gather now that it's somewhere one has to take a
vehicle to have the engine emissions checked, but my first thought was
that the OP was talking about some sort of shelter outside a bar where
smokers could go to indulge their addiction.

Two nations divided by a common language, eh?


Yes, quite! Mind you, would MoT mean anything on the other side of the
pond.

Like you, I was interested to hear of potential solutions to recovering
a deleted photo, but I had to delete the vast majority of the off-topic
replies which continue to ruin rec.photo.digital for me, and appear to
have driven away many of the previous regular posters.

--
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David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #67  
Old June 7th 14, 02:42 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
J. Clarke[_2_]
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

In article , lid says...

In article , Silent Knight wrote:
I took a picture at the bar referee smog station of ...


I find it fascinating that this has (already) led to a thread of 75+
posts, most of which have nothing to do with the question being asked
and everything to do with the reason that the OP asked it.

Had the OP simply asked: "I have taken a photograph on my phone and
have unfortunately deleted it. Is there any way that I can get it back.
The phone is a Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3 and the picture was saved
on the SD card. I use Ubuntu Linux." he would have had a handful or
relevant replies and that would have been that.

Because he went into all the irrelevant stuff about a "smog station"
and "inappropriate action" this has become a much larger thread and all
sorts of issues have been discussed.

I love that about usenet -- but it does show that you have to be
careful to ask the question you mean to ask if you hope to get a simple
answer (mine would be: "testdisk").

I'm British, and the phrase "bar referee smog station" meant absolutely
nothing to me ... I gather now that it's somewhere one has to take a
vehicle to have the engine emissions checked, but my first thought was
that the OP was talking about some sort of shelter outside a bar where
smokers could go to indulge their addiction.

Two nations divided by a common language, eh?


In this case one nation. I live in the US and had no idea what a "BAR
referee smog station" was--I envisioned an establishment for smoking
lawyers initially. Most places in the US just call it an "emissions
test station" and don't have special ones for "referees". This seems to
be something uniquely Californican.


  #68  
Old June 7th 14, 02:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
James Silverton[_2_]
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

On 6/7/2014 9:01 AM, David Taylor wrote:
On 07/06/2014 12:59, Daniel James wrote:
[]
I'm British, and the phrase "bar referee smog station" meant absolutely
nothing to me ... I gather now that it's somewhere one has to take a
vehicle to have the engine emissions checked, but my first thought was
that the OP was talking about some sort of shelter outside a bar where
smokers could go to indulge their addiction.

Two nations divided by a common language, eh?


Yes, quite! Mind you, would MoT mean anything on the other side of the
pond.

Like you, I was interested to hear of potential solutions to recovering
a deleted photo, but I had to delete the vast majority of the off-topic
replies which continue to ruin rec.photo.digital for me, and appear to
have driven away many of the previous regular posters.

As it happens, I do know what MoT means and there are similar
abbreviations in the US; I have seen USDOT and VDOT on trucks in the US
but, except in this case, I would feel it necessary to explain them to
an international audience.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
  #69  
Old June 7th 14, 03:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

In article , David Taylor
wrote:

Like you, I was interested to hear of potential solutions to recovering
a deleted photo, but I had to delete the vast majority of the off-topic
replies which continue to ruin rec.photo.digital for me, and appear to
have driven away many of the previous regular posters.


they were mostly driven away by the p&s troll.
  #70  
Old June 7th 14, 03:50 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.linux,rec.photo.digital
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Default How to recover a photo I was forced to delete

On 2014-06-07 13:42:53 +0000, "J. Clarke" said:

In article , lid says...

In article , Silent Knight wrote:
I took a picture at the bar referee smog station of ...


I find it fascinating that this has (already) led to a thread of 75+
posts, most of which have nothing to do with the question being asked
and everything to do with the reason that the OP asked it.

Had the OP simply asked: "I have taken a photograph on my phone and
have unfortunately deleted it. Is there any way that I can get it back.
The phone is a Galaxy S3 running Android 4.3 and the picture was saved
on the SD card. I use Ubuntu Linux." he would have had a handful or
relevant replies and that would have been that.

Because he went into all the irrelevant stuff about a "smog station"
and "inappropriate action" this has become a much larger thread and all
sorts of issues have been discussed.

I love that about usenet -- but it does show that you have to be
careful to ask the question you mean to ask if you hope to get a simple
answer (mine would be: "testdisk").

I'm British, and the phrase "bar referee smog station" meant absolutely
nothing to me ... I gather now that it's somewhere one has to take a
vehicle to have the engine emissions checked, but my first thought was
that the OP was talking about some sort of shelter outside a bar where
smokers could go to indulge their addiction.

Two nations divided by a common language, eh?


In this case one nation. I live in the US and had no idea what a "BAR
referee smog station" was--I envisioned an establishment for smoking
lawyers initially. Most places in the US just call it an "emissions
test station" and don't have special ones for "referees". This seems to
be something uniquely Californican.


Let's just call it a top heavy California bureaucracy. A commercial
automobile repair facility in this state ends up haveing to deal with
multiple agencies such as, the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR), the
Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV), the California Occupational Safety
& Health Administration (CalOSHA) for starters. I have no doubt there
are others.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

 




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