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Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: Done all that. My problem is that any attempt of Dell to contact Corsair gets a response of "You are not authorised to ... " or words to that effect. I've been through all the settings that I (and others) can think of and they are identical on both machines. Yet Corsair is succesful in contacting Dell while Dell is unsuccesful in getting a useful response from Corsair. The problem may lie in the fact that Corsair is W10 Home while Dell is W10 Pro. You;re not suggesting that thgis is a Windows problem are you ? Not at all. I've boiled it down to probably being a user name and password problem. I hope to know later in the day. The problem is that Windows can do so many things (sometimes in so many different ways) that unless you know exactly what you are doing you can be brought up short by a security barrier at almost any stage. What I now have to do is make sure that he two computers are so configured that they can actually talk to each other. it's very clearly a windows problem when it's so much trouble just to get two computers to talk to each other. Everything is an XXXXXX problem if you don't know the rules by which XXXXXX operates. no. It certainly works for Windows. nope. look at all the problems you're having. it *doesn't* work for windows. It also works for you. yep. on a mac, it's one click for the desired services, even when the users on each system are different, as is the case with your setup: https://support.apple.com/library/co...are/images/en_ US/osx/yos_sys_sharing_files.png |
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Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
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Whisky-dave wrote: The problem is that Windows can do so many things (sometimes in so many different ways) that unless you know exactly what you are doing you can be brought up short by a security barrier at almost any stage. Then I;d say that it an error and shouldn't happen. What I now have to do is make sure that he two computers are so configured that they can actually talk to each other. I never knew that was such a difficult problem, well it isn't with Mac anyway. it isn't. windows is what makes simple tasks a difficult problem, and what's really strange is that people make excuses for it being like that. |
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Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
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Whisky-dave wrote: Done all that. My problem is that any attempt of Dell to contact Corsair gets a response of "You are not authorised to ... " or words to that effect. I've been through all the settings that I (and others) can think of and they are identical on both machines. Yet Corsair is succesful in contacting Dell while Dell is unsuccesful in getting a useful response from Corsair. The problem may lie in the fact that Corsair is W10 Home while Dell is W10 Pro. You;re not suggesting that thgis is a Windows problem are you ? Not at all. I've boiled it down to probably being a user name and password problem. I hope to know later in the day. The problem is that Windows can do so many things (sometimes in so many different ways) that unless you know exactly what you are doing you can be brought up short by a security barrier at almost any stage. What I now have to do is make sure that he two computers are so configured that they can actually talk to each other. it's very clearly a windows problem when it's so much trouble just to get two computers to talk to each other. Everything is an XXXXXX problem if you don't know the rules by which XXXXXX operates. You shouldn't have to that is the point. exactly. |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, itdoes so spectacularly.
On 10/30/2018 6:26 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 30, 2018, Neil wrote (in article ): On 10/30/2018 4:36 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Oct 30, 2018, Neil wrote (in article ): On 10/30/2018 1:48 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Oct 30, 2018, Neil wrote [...] As I don't have a Fujifilm camera, apps dedicated to them have little interest to me, but I don't have a problem with those who find it useful information, even if it hijacked the topic. ;-) Since Capture One Pro is also available as a more general program rather than their two manufacturer specific versions (Sony, or Fujifilm), any thoughts. https://www.phaseone.com/en/Capture-One.aspx Well, once again my perspective toward image editing software is tied to my history of professional image editing since the 1970s. My preferred software is that which provides good tools, not "push-button" effects, and as such will not be specific to any camera or presumed workflow. Just consider that your history of professional image editing is rooted in a wet darkroom, as was my hobbyist image editing history, and that today the professional, and the enthusiast hobbyist photographers have moved into the digital darkroom which entails using appropriate “good tools”, and for most photographers in those categories that means Adobe CC, or some other sophisticated software. I do not recall what you are shooting these days, but if you are shooting any digital I would have believed that you would be interested in software such as Photoshop, Lightroom, Capture One, DxO, and several others, and how they work, along with their ease of use, I am. Duck, I began working with _digital images_ in the 1970s. My wet darkroom days go back to the '60s. Mine started back in the ‘50s in my father’s darkroom. If you started working on digital images in the 1970s you have me there by a few years. Yes, we both have a lot of experience. The point I was making is that my personal photography tools are driven by my use of professional tools. The first "digital image editors" I worked with were for video production, like the Quantel Paintbox and other specialized hardware. I was/am not a video shooter of any kind. By the late '70s, I was using custom tools for personal computers such as for the Apple][ and even designed and built some. I got my first Apple, an Apple ][e in 1983. By the 80s I was using mainly PC-based hardware and software such as the AT&T Vista, which was 32bit color. At home for my personal use I have always used Apple computers since that first Apple ][e. However, at work it was all on PC-based machines. As I've stated in other threads, I'm a platform agnostic. The only thing that matters to me are the tools that are available to get the work done at the level I require. There were many image editing programs in those days, but I eventually preferred Aldus PhotoStyler because of its ability to create and save custom tools. Adobe bought Aldus, and shut down PhotoStyler to sell Photoshop, which was quite inferior to it. So, I've used Photoshop since its release and haven't seen anything since version 5 or so that brought something useful to my table. Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. I work in the format of the output medium (e.g. CMYK for print, RGB for video), and find it much faster to use curves and other fundamental tools to do the job to my level of expectations. You can certainly work that way with Photoshop, as you can with similar Pro level software. There are more options today than there were in earlier decades, but I also don't waste my time learning new UIs for those apps. One exception is that I participated in the beta program for Affinity Photo and now have that app on this laptop, strictly for personal use. -- best regards, Neil |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
On 2018-10-31 15:33:04 +0000, Neil said:
On 10/30/2018 6:26 PM, Savageduck wrote: Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. Version 5.0 is over 20 years old and the World has moved under it, that includes finding any currently supported OS, Mac, or Windows. What Photoshop CC is capable of today is very different to what you had in PS 5.0. BTW: You did not say what camera(s) you actualy personally use. I work in the format of the output medium (e.g. CMYK for print, RGB for video), and find it much faster to use curves and other fundamental tools to do the job to my level of expectations. You can certainly work that way with Photoshop, as you can with similar Pro level software. There are more options today than there were in earlier decades, but I also don't waste my time learning new UIs for those apps. Apparently not for the last 20 years you haven't, especially when it comes to Photoshop. Things have changed, and the incremental nature of the evolution, improvements, and advancements with Photoshop, along with many of the plugins integrating with PS have made dealing with UI changes easier, and easier. the same applies to Lightroom, and many of the alternate software, and/or plugins. Now there are more changes coming with the development of AI in image processing. One exception is that I participated in the beta program for Affinity Photo and now have that app on this laptop, strictly for personal use. The Beta, or the latest Affinity Photo release? Affinity Photo is very good. However, it is still a far cry from Photoshop CC. Affinity Photo has a UI and workflow which did require some learning, and I find it a bit of a kludge compared to Photoshop. I find the Affinity Photo for iPad to be the best of the mobile photo editing apps, but Adobe has promised a full version of Photoshop for iOS next year, then I will reevaluate. |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
In article , Neil
wrote: There were many image editing programs in those days, but I eventually preferred Aldus PhotoStyler because of its ability to create and save custom tools. Adobe bought Aldus, and shut down PhotoStyler to sell Photoshop, which was quite inferior to it. So, I've used Photoshop since its release and haven't seen anything since version 5 or so that brought something useful to my table. Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. a *lot* has changed since version 5, *far* more than shifting menus and changing keyboard commands (which can be set to whatever you want anyway). |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, itdoes so spectacularly.
On 10/31/2018 12:51 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2018-10-31 15:33:04 +0000, Neil said: On 10/30/2018 6:26 PM, Savageduck wrote: Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? * Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. Version 5.0 is over 20 years old and the World has moved under it, that includes finding any currently supported OS, Mac, or Windows. If you re-read what I wrote, above, it clearly states that I'm not still running version 5.0. What Photoshop CC is capable of today is very different to what you had in PS 5.0. Not in terms of what I need or how efficiently I can get what I need done. BTW: You did not say what camera(s) you actualy personally use. It doesn't matter to the above. However, I use all of the cameras I've acquired over the years, which includes Leicas, Rolleis, Olympus and to lesser degrees Canon and Nikon. I work in the format of the output medium (e.g. CMYK for print, RGB for video), and find it much faster to use curves and other fundamental tools to do the job to my level of expectations. You can certainly work that way with Photoshop, as you can with similar Pro level software. There are more options today than there were in earlier decades, but I also don't waste my time learning new UIs for those apps. Apparently not for the last 20 years you haven't, especially when it comes to Photoshop. What part of "The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility" is giving you difficulty? Things have changed, and the incremental nature of the evolution, improvements, and advancements with Photoshop, along with many of the plugins integrating with PS have made dealing with UI changes easier, and easier. the same applies to Lightroom, and many of the alternate software, and/or plugins. You are making the very erroneous assumption that I haven't seen these changes and made decisions about their usefulness to me. They're even less useful to me now that I'm pretty much retired. Now there are more changes coming with the development of AI in image processing. I'm not interested in that, either. It may be useful to some who play around with their images, but that's not me. One exception is that I participated in the beta program for Affinity Photo and now have that app on this laptop, strictly for personal use. The Beta, or the latest Affinity Photo release? I purchased it at a discount after the beta program, and therefore it is current. Affinity Photo is very good. However, it is still a far cry from Photoshop CC. I don't use it as a replacement for Photoshop. I wrote that it's on *this notebook for personal use*. What is confusing you about that? -- best regards, Neil |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, itdoes so spectacularly.
On 10/31/2018 1:40 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Neil wrote: There were many image editing programs in those days, but I eventually preferred Aldus PhotoStyler because of its ability to create and save custom tools. Adobe bought Aldus, and shut down PhotoStyler to sell Photoshop, which was quite inferior to it. So, I've used Photoshop since its release and haven't seen anything since version 5 or so that brought something useful to my table. Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. a *lot* has changed since version 5, *far* more than shifting menus and changing keyboard commands (which can be set to whatever you want anyway). If you could read, you'd know that I have newer versions but don't find that their features increase my productivity, the accuracy of my work, or any other aspect critical to me. YMMV. The shifting menus and changing keyboard commands simply waste my time, and I don't care for that, either. -- best regards, Neil |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, it does so spectacularly.
In article , Neil
wrote: There were many image editing programs in those days, but I eventually preferred Aldus PhotoStyler because of its ability to create and save custom tools. Adobe bought Aldus, and shut down PhotoStyler to sell Photoshop, which was quite inferior to it. So, I've used Photoshop since its release and haven't seen anything since version 5 or so that brought something useful to my table. Do you mean Photoshop 5.0 (version 5.0), or Photoshop CS5 (version 12.0)? Version 5.0. The only reason I upgraded beyond that was for OS compatibility. It does little for my productivity to have menus shifted around or the keyboard commands changed. a *lot* has changed since version 5, *far* more than shifting menus and changing keyboard commands (which can be set to whatever you want anyway). If you could read, you'd know that I have newer versions but don't find that their features increase my productivity, the accuracy of my work, or any other aspect critical to me. YMMV. The shifting menus and changing keyboard commands simply waste my time, and I don't care for that, either. keyboard shortcuts can be set to whatever you want and i can't think of which menu options shifted to where it would confuse someone. if anything, it's *more* logical now than it used to be, and if you use the keyboard shortcuts, the menu locations are irrelevant. that tells me you don't know how to use photoshop to its fullest potential (or even part of its potential), which is not surprising given what else you've said. you like doing things the hard way, resistant to change. |
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Capture One 11 Pro: was - Got to admit; when Windows fails, itdoes so spectacularly.
On 10/31/2018 2:15 PM, nospam wrote:
that tells me you don't know how to use photoshop to its fullest potential (or even part of its potential), which is not surprising given what else you've said. you like doing things the hard way, resistant to change. I've used Photoshop for well over 20 years, but I don't know how to use it to it's fullest potential? How did you arrive at that idiotic notion? Whether something is "the hard way" depends on what one needs to do, not what functions have been included in an updated app. -- best regards, Neil |
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