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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. the 12v battery does have fluids, otherwise known as water, which doesn't require changing and is almost certainly a maintenance free battery where it *can't* be changed. if that battery needs any water at all, then something is wrong with it and/or the vehicle's charging system. that is *not* a maintenance task, but rather a symptom of an actual problem. surprising as it may seem, problems do occur. once again, you fail to understand the topic and only wish to argue. |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:39:08 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. Are you not aware that Propylene Glycol is circulated through Tesla batteries as a coolant? Well it is, and it has to be changed at regular (high) intervals. See https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-Te...ry-pack-cooled https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla...-battery-pack/ the 12v battery does have fluids, otherwise known as water, which doesn't require changing and is almost certainly a maintenance free battery where it *can't* be changed. if that battery needs any water at all, then something is wrong with it and/or the vehicle's charging system. that is *not* a maintenance task, but rather a symptom of an actual problem. surprising as it may seem, problems do occur. once again, you fail to understand the topic and only wish to argue. Ahem. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. Are you not aware that Propylene Glycol is circulated through Tesla batteries as a coolant? Well it is, and it has to be changed at regular (high) intervals. See https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-Te...ry-pack-cooled https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla...-battery-pack/ i am aware of that, and that it's not *in* the batteries. in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. and the original comment was about changing *oil*, not battery coolant. Neil responded with "It will be interesting to see how long your car lasts without an oil change". to which you responded: are you not aware that they are not the same thing? apparently not. you're really grasping at straws, and entirely missing the original point. oh, and the battery coolant only needs to be changed every *eight* years for the x & 3, according to tesla. https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance also note that there is no mention of transmission fluid. you ****ed up that one big time. |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:42:20 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. Are you not aware that Propylene Glycol is circulated through Tesla batteries as a coolant? Well it is, and it has to be changed at regular (high) intervals. See https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-Te...ry-pack-cooled https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla...-battery-pack/ i am aware of that, and that it's not *in* the batteries. If you replace a Tesla battery, this is what you get https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.ne...ttery-tech.jpg The coolant system is an integral part. in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. and the original comment was about changing *oil*, not battery coolant. Yes. You said there is no oil to change. Not only did I correct you on that but I pointed out that "there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries". If you like now, we can go on to brake fluids and air conditioning fluids. They all require manual management. Neil responded with "It will be interesting to see how long your car lasts without an oil change". to which you responded: are you not aware that they are not the same thing? apparently not. you're really grasping at straws, and entirely missing the original point. oh, and the battery coolant only needs to be changed every *eight* years for the x & 3, according to tesla. https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance also note that there is no mention of transmission fluid. you ****ed up that one big time. By 'transmission fluid' you are probaly referring to conventional automatic transmission fluid. The Tesla doesn't have an automatic transmission and hence doesn't have automatic transmission fluid. But the Tesla still has a transmission which contains oil which has to be changed from time to time. When you wrote "and for an electric vehicle, there is no oil to change" it was that to that oil which I originally referred. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. Are you not aware that Propylene Glycol is circulated through Tesla batteries as a coolant? Well it is, and it has to be changed at regular (high) intervals. See https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-Te...ttery-pack-coo led https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla...-battery-pack/ i am aware of that, and that it's not *in* the batteries. If you replace a Tesla battery, oh, so now it's replacing batteries? what happened to changing the battery coolant, transmission fluid and originally the oil? it's hard to keep up with the goalpost movement, even in a tesla. this is what you get https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.ne...tesla-battery- tech.jpg The coolant system is an integral part. except that you were arguing about replacing the battery coolant, not the actual battery assembly. you're desperately trying to find *something* to argue about and when you fail, you try something else. in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. and the original comment was about changing *oil*, not battery coolant. Yes. You said there is no oil to change. Not only did I correct you on that there's nothing to correct since there is no oil to change. battery coolant is not oil and serves an entirely different purpose. and as i said before, you're completely missing the point, which is why you're all over the map trying to find *something* to argue about. but I pointed out that "there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries". again, there are no fluids *in* the batteries. there is coolant *around* the batteries, which only needs to be changed every *eight* *years* (x & 3), not the batteries. the batteries do eventually wear out, just as they do with computers and every other device that uses a battery. no surprise there, and also not in any way relevant. If you like now, we can go on to brake fluids and air conditioning fluids. They all require manual management. that's not management, and also not relevant. you are *completely* missing the point to where it's comical the lengths you are going just to argue. Neil responded with "It will be interesting to see how long your car lasts without an oil change". to which you responded: are you not aware that they are not the same thing? apparently not. you're really grasping at straws, and entirely missing the original point. oh, and the battery coolant only needs to be changed every *eight* years for the x & 3, according to tesla. https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance also note that there is no mention of transmission fluid. you ****ed up that one big time. By 'transmission fluid' you are probaly referring to conventional automatic transmission fluid. The Tesla doesn't have an automatic transmission and hence doesn't have automatic transmission fluid. at least you finally figured that out. But the Tesla still has a transmission which contains oil which has to be changed from time to time. except that there is no mention of changing transmission oil anywhere in their own maintenance schedule (see link above). in fact, the word 'transmission' does not exist *anywhere* on that page and the word oil only exists to say that tesla doesn't need for it to be changed: Unlike gasoline cars, Tesla cars require no traditional oil changes, fuel filters, spark plug replacements or emission checks When you wrote "and for an electric vehicle, there is no oil to change" it was that to that oil which I originally referred. transmission fluid is not oil and serves an entirely different purpose. a manual transmission does use gear oil, but a tesla doesn't have a manual transmission (nor does almost every other vehicle made), so that is not applicable. and you're still missing the original point. |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:09:03 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: I picked up on the second part of *your* reply and showed that you were wrong. In fact there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. In fact you did not know that and are now trying to wriggle out of discussing a topic which *you* introduced. what fluids might those be? lithium ion batteries do not have fluids to change. Are you not aware that Propylene Glycol is circulated through Tesla batteries as a coolant? Well it is, and it has to be changed at regular (high) intervals. See https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-Te...ttery-pack-coo led https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla...-battery-pack/ i am aware of that, and that it's not *in* the batteries. If you replace a Tesla battery, oh, so now it's replacing batteries? That was an illustration of what a Tesla battery looks like. The coolant system is an integral part. what happened to changing the battery coolant, transmission fluid and originally the oil? You tried to duck out on them. Thank you for bringing them back, but there is no transmission fluid as it is commonly known in the wider automotive industry. it's hard to keep up with the goalpost movement, even in a tesla. this is what you get https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.ne...tesla-battery- tech.jpg The coolant system is an integral part. I had already told you, as I thought. except that you were arguing about replacing the battery coolant, not the actual battery assembly. I was responding to your ".... it's not *in* the batteries". It's not in the cells but it most certainly is in the batteries. you're desperately trying to find *something* to argue about and when you fail, you try something else. Don't worry. I'm sticking with the subject. in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries. and the original comment was about changing *oil*, not battery coolant. Yes. You said there is no oil to change. Not only did I correct you on that there's nothing to correct since there is no oil to change. Oh yes there is. What do you think lubricates the gears? battery coolant is not oil and serves an entirely different purpose. and as i said before, you're completely missing the point, which is why you're all over the map trying to find *something* to argue about. but I pointed out that "there are plenty of fluids which require changing in electric cars, including the fluids in the batteries". again, there are no fluids *in* the batteries. See above. there is coolant *around* the batteries, which only needs to be changed every *eight* *years* (x & 3), not the batteries. It exists and needs to be changed. That was the point you originally denied. the batteries do eventually wear out, just as they do with computers and every other device that uses a battery. no surprise there, and also not in any way relevant. Who said anything about that? If you like now, we can go on to brake fluids and air conditioning fluids. They all require manual management. that's not management, and also not relevant. you are *completely* missing the point to where it's comical the lengths you are going just to argue. Neil responded with "It will be interesting to see how long your car lasts without an oil change". to which you responded: are you not aware that they are not the same thing? apparently not. you're really grasping at straws, and entirely missing the original point. oh, and the battery coolant only needs to be changed every *eight* years for the x & 3, according to tesla. https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance also note that there is no mention of transmission fluid. you ****ed up that one big time. By 'transmission fluid' you are probaly referring to conventional automatic transmission fluid. The Tesla doesn't have an automatic transmission and hence doesn't have automatic transmission fluid. at least you finally figured that out. I figured it out before you did. That's why you reminded me of it and I had to explain its absence to you. But the Tesla still has a transmission which contains oil which has to be changed from time to time. except that there is no mention of changing transmission oil anywhere in their own maintenance schedule (see link above). There is no mention of battery coolant either. But see https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...e-train.19220/ or http://tinyurl.com/ycjnt6kk which states "This video shows a technician saying that the gear box of the Roadster has oil in it and it needs to be changed every two years or so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggoi0...ature=youtu.be " in fact, the word 'transmission' does not exist *anywhere* on that page and the word oil only exists to say that tesla doesn't need for it to be changed: Unlike gasoline cars, Tesla cars require no traditional oil changes, fuel filters, spark plug replacements or emission checks Oils wear out, irrespective of engine type. When you wrote "and for an electric vehicle, there is no oil to change" it was that to that oil which I originally referred. transmission fluid is not oil and serves an entirely different purpose. But the Tesla has none. a manual transmission does use gear oil, but a tesla doesn't have a manual transmission (nor does almost every other vehicle made), so that is not applicable. and you're still missing the original point. What? That if something needs management it must be broken? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: If you replace a Tesla battery, oh, so now it's replacing batteries? That was an illustration of what a Tesla battery looks like. The coolant system is an integral part. except that you said the battery coolant must be changed which means it can't be an integral part. you're very confused, seeking only to argue. what happened to changing the battery coolant, transmission fluid and originally the oil? You tried to duck out on them. nope. Thank you for bringing them back, but there is no transmission fluid as it is commonly known in the wider automotive industry. if there is no transmission fluid, then there's nothing to change, is there? you're desperately trying to find *something* to argue about and when you fail, you try something else. Don't worry. I'm sticking with the subject. no, you very definitely are not. |
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Are Windows repair solutions like a traffic light button?
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:01:37 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: If you replace a Tesla battery, oh, so now it's replacing batteries? That was an illustration of what a Tesla battery looks like. The coolant system is an integral part. except that you said the battery coolant must be changed which means it can't be an integral part. But the battery can also be changed. Will you claim that this too is not an integral part. you're very confused, seeking only to argue. what happened to changing the battery coolant, transmission fluid and originally the oil? You tried to duck out on them. nope. Thank you for bringing them back, but there is no transmission fluid as it is commonly known in the wider automotive industry. if there is no transmission fluid, then there's nothing to change, is there? Can I give you a hint? Gear lubricant. you're desperately trying to find *something* to argue about and when you fail, you try something else. Don't worry. I'm sticking with the subject. no, you very definitely are not. According to nospam. Enough of this nonsense. I'm sick of your wriggling. In other words we must take language seriously. Imprecise language discloses the lack of precision of thought." Regards, Eric Stevens -- |
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