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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
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wrote: [] Sure, but you referred to the term photosite. No, I did not. Sure you did! EOD. he didn't. *you* did. no. check that that was written... if you insist. In article , android wrote: In article , David Taylor wrote: On 21/10/2015 12:20, Me wrote: [] Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common resolution on old laptops. Confirming that: 1024 x 768 x 3 = 2359296, the number of dots claimed by Sony. Whatever happened to the term photosites? |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
In article , android
wrote: The subject is displays, not sensors. Sure, but you referred to the term photosite. no he didn't. *you* did. sure he did... check the quote. he didn't. you did. In article , android wrote: In article , David Taylor wrote: On 21/10/2015 12:20, Me wrote: [] Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common resolution on old laptops. Confirming that: 1024 x 768 x 3 = 2359296, the number of dots claimed by Sony. Whatever happened to the term photosites? |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
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nospam wrote: In article , android wrote: [] Sure, but you referred to the term photosite. No, I did not. Sure you did! EOD. he didn't. *you* did. no. check that that was written... if you insist. In article , android wrote: In article , David Taylor wrote: On 21/10/2015 12:20, Me wrote: [] Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common resolution on old laptops. Confirming that: 1024 x 768 x 3 = 2359296, the number of dots claimed by Sony. Whatever happened to the term photosites? But that was not that what was replied to. -- teleportation kills |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
In article ,
nospam wrote: In article , android wrote: The subject is displays, not sensors. Sure, but you referred to the term photosite. no he didn't. *you* did. sure he did... check the quote. he didn't. you did. I have answered that in a reply to a similar post of yours. You should really get your parotitis fixed! In article , android wrote: In article , David Taylor wrote: On 21/10/2015 12:20, Me wrote: [] Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common resolution on old laptops. Confirming that: 1024 x 768 x 3 = 2359296, the number of dots claimed by Sony. Whatever happened to the term photosites? -- teleportation kills |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
On 22 Oct 2015 08:27:08 GMT, Sandman wrote:
In article , Rich A wrote: Me: They could machine the cases out of unobtanium if they like, but unless they figure out some way of ensuring that all the electronics to make the thing work don't become obsolete, it's a hell of a price for a disposable electronic consumer appliance. The DPReview article mentions certain flaws/quirks with the electronics in the camera they tested, slow buffer clearing and "card full" errors etc. For that kind of coin, I'd expect perfection. The "studio comparison" seems to show that the Nikon D610 easily outperforms the Leica SL image quality, despite the $5,000 lens on the Leica vs a $500 lens on the Nikon. The D810 and Canon 5DS/R completely trounce it. On resolution, the D810 beats the much more expensive Nikon D4 and D4s, but that isn't the whole story, is it? He said "image quality", not "image resolution". Look at the studio comparison shots: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=leica_sl_typ60 1&attr13_1=leica_q116&attr13_2=nikon_d610&attr13_3 =sony_a7_ii&attr15_0=jpeg&attr15_1=jpeg&attr15_2=j peg&attr15_3=jpeg&attr16_0=50&attr16_1=100&attr16_ 2=100&attr16_3=100&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.0036246476037053326&y=0.004001312868243624 or http://tinyurl.com/nryjygz The Leica SL doesn't really show ten times the performance, seeing how the 610 outperforms it easily in image quality. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
On 23/10/2015 02:56, Sandman wrote:
In article , RichA wrote: Me: They could machine the cases out of unobtanium if they like, but unless they figure out some way of ensuring that all the electronics to make the thing work don't become obsolete, it's a hell of a price for a disposable electronic consumer appliance. The DPReview article mentions certain flaws/quirks with the electronics in the camera they tested, slow buffer clearing and "card full" errors etc. For that kind of coin, I'd expect perfection. The "studio comparison" seems to show that the Nikon D610 easily outperforms the Leica SL image quality, despite the $5,000 lens on the Leica vs a $500 lens on the Nikon. The D810 and Canon 5DS/R completely trounce it. Rich A: On resolution, the D810 beats the much more expensive Nikon D4 and D4s, but that isn't the whole story, is it? Sandman: He said "image quality", not "image resolution". Look at the studio comparison shots: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/imag...ht&attr13_0=le ica_sl_typ601&attr13_1=leica_q116&attr13_2=nikon_d 610&attr13_3=sony_a7_ii&at tr15_0=jpeg&attr15_1=jpeg&attr15_2=jpeg&attr15_3=j peg&attr16_0=50&at tr16_1=100&attr16_2=100&attr16_3=100&normalization =full&wid get=1&x=-0.0036246476037053326&y=0.004001312868243624 The Leica SL doesn't really show ten times the performance, seeing how the 610 outperforms it easily in image quality. -- Sandman What I see from the 610 is lower contrast, Nope. similar resolution What?? Are you saying the 24MP Leica has similar resolution to the 24MP Nikon D610? What scientific evidence are you basing this on?? and less saturated colour. Uh, no again. From the 610, worse edge chromatic aberration and on the resolution targets on the lower right edge, D610 has less chromatic aberration in the example. (where the little 3-line hash marks continue to diminish in size, you see a saw-tooth pattern from the Nikon on the small details. And on the bigger ones, you have heavy fringing by the ten times more expensive Leica, where (virtually) none is on the D610. The Leica is also much fuzzier overall. The Sony A7 beats them all hands down in every aspect. I have newfound respect for my A7 now. Take a look at the patterns in the extreme corners, raw with the Leica. Presumably the in-camera jpegs are corrected and in that case no correction applied to the raw files by ACR, but wow - that's extreme CA. OK - the Leica lens is a zoom, but it's a $5,000 lens. |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
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Sandman: And on the bigger ones, you have heavy fringing by the ten times more expensive Leica, where (virtually) none is on the D610. The Leica is also much fuzzier overall. The Sony A7 beats them all hands down in every aspect. I have newfound respect for my A7 now. Take a look at the patterns in the extreme corners, raw with the Leica. Yeah, that's what I did, the D610 is killing the Leica. Presumably the in-camera jpegs are corrected and in that case no correction applied to the raw files by ACR, but wow - that's extreme CA. OK - the Leica lens is a zoom, but it's a $5,000 lens. Indeed. :/ -- Sandman |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
In article ,
Sandman wrote: In article , Me wrote: Sandman: And on the bigger ones, you have heavy fringing by the ten times more expensive Leica, where (virtually) none is on the D610. The Leica is also much fuzzier overall. The Sony A7 beats them all hands down in every aspect. I have newfound respect for my A7 now. Take a look at the patterns in the extreme corners, raw with the Leica. Yeah, that's what I did, the D610 is killing the Leica. Presumably the in-camera jpegs are corrected and in that case no correction applied to the raw files by ACR, but wow - that's extreme CA. OK - the Leica lens is a zoom, but it's a $5,000 lens. Indeed. :/ I think that it's safe to say that both the SL and the A7 is trounced by the Canikan competition at high ISO. Have a looksie: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/imag...ylight&attr13_ 0=leica_sl_typ601&attr13_1=sony_a7&attr13_2=nikon_ d610&attr13_3=canon_eos 6d&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3 =raw&attr16_0=12500&att r16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&normaliz ation=full&widget=1&x=- 0.0036246476037053326&y=0.004001312868243624 http://tinyurl.com/nvmv9j2 The Leica has an obvious and expected edge here over the Sony though... -- teleportation kills |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
In article , android wrote:
In article , Sandman: And on the bigger ones, you have heavy fringing by the ten times more expensive Leica, where (virtually) none is on the D610. The Leica is also much fuzzier overall. The Sony A7 beats them all hands down in every aspect. I have newfound respect for my A7 now. Me: Take a look at the patterns in the extreme corners, raw with the Leica. Sandman: Yeah, that's what I did, the D610 is killing the Leica. Me: Presumably the in-camera jpegs are corrected and in that case no correction applied to the raw files by ACR, but wow - that's extreme CA. OK - the Leica lens is a zoom, but it's a $5,000 lens. Sandman: Indeed. :/ I think that it's safe to say that both the SL and the A7 is trounced by the Canikan competition at high ISO. Who talked about high ISO? -- Sandman |
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New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
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Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: In article , Sandman: And on the bigger ones, you have heavy fringing by the ten times more expensive Leica, where (virtually) none is on the D610. The Leica is also much fuzzier overall. The Sony A7 beats them all hands down in every aspect. I have newfound respect for my A7 now. Me: Take a look at the patterns in the extreme corners, raw with the Leica. Sandman: Yeah, that's what I did, the D610 is killing the Leica. Me: Presumably the in-camera jpegs are corrected and in that case no correction applied to the raw files by ACR, but wow - that's extreme CA. OK - the Leica lens is a zoom, but it's a $5,000 lens. Sandman: Indeed. :/ I think that it's safe to say that both the SL and the A7 is trounced by the Canikan competition at high ISO. Who talked about high ISO? I did! -- teleportation kills |
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