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Old October 26th 06, 08:42 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
Luis Ortega
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get my
images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.


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Old October 26th 06, 09:35 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
Stan Beck
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

I don't print my own photos because of all of the different things to have
to control, but here are some questions you have to answer for yourself:

What color space in PS are you working in/printing from? RGB, sRGB. CYMK?

Did you calibrate your printer?

Did you get color profiles for your printer?

Did you get color profiles for the paper that you are using.


Thr first thing is to make sure that your monitor is calibrated, that what
you see is accurate. Then you need to calibrate your printer - your ink
affects your colors, and so does your choice of paper.


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"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
...
Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get
my images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.



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Old October 27th 06, 12:07 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
Celcius
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2


"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
...
Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get
my images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.

Hi!
Try Alt + Ctrl + P (Print with preview), then Be sure you have "let
Photoshop determine colors", then whatever you use such as "working RGB",
relative colorimetric, etc. If you let the printer determine the colors, it
will be awful unless your printer has been defined in the same way as
Photoshop.
Marcel


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Old October 27th 06, 10:50 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
Sven Vandermaas
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

Can you please tell me how to do this ? I'm not too familiar with this.
Thanks !

Sven

Did you calibrate your printer?

Did you get color profiles for your printer?

Did you get color profiles for the paper that you are using.


Thr first thing is to make sure that your monitor is calibrated, that what
you see is accurate. Then you need to calibrate your printer - your ink
affects your colors, and so does your choice of paper.


--
If time slows down as velocity increases, then my broadband connection
must be really fast !

Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS
To reply, remove 101 from address.
***

"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
...
Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get
my images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.





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Old October 27th 06, 02:26 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
Stan Beck
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

Sorry, but I can't. As I said, I don't print my own photos, because 1.)
it's a lot of trouble; and 2.) it costs more in terms of paper/ink prices,
including the wasted ink and paper used in the calibration process.

Some of the more complete calibration packages, which include the spider for
monitor calibration, also have the software and tools to calibrate your
printer.

I would look at the advanced ColorVision products or the Monaco or Macbeth
systems (more expensive).

Wish I could be more help.

--
If time slows down as velocity increases, then my broadband connection must
be really fast !

Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS
To reply, remove 101 from address.
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"Sven Vandermaas" wrote in message
...
Can you please tell me how to do this ? I'm not too familiar with this.
Thanks !

Sven

Did you calibrate your printer?

Did you get color profiles for your printer?

Did you get color profiles for the paper that you are using.


Thr first thing is to make sure that your monitor is calibrated, that
what you see is accurate. Then you need to calibrate your printer - your
ink affects your colors, and so does your choice of paper.


--
If time slows down as velocity increases, then my broadband connection
must be really fast !

Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS
To reply, remove 101 from address.
***

"Luis Ortega" wrote in message
...
Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get
my images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.







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Old October 27th 06, 06:25 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
ben
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

my suggestion is use correct settint in photoshop , printer driver
and using correct icc profile in your printer . then you can get pro
result . otherwise printing form photoshop is
merely a headache . here are some suggestions to setup photoshop
How to setup photoshop
select edit color settings
1.select "north America prepress 2" in settings
2.working spaces :
a)rgb : adobe rgb (1998)
b)cmyk: u.s web coated (swop) v2
c)gray: dot gain 20%
d)spot: dot gain 20%
3.color management policies
a)rgb : preserve embedded profiles
b)cmyk: preserve embedded profiles
c)gray: preserve embedded profiles
d)profile mismatches :click ask when opening and ask
when pasting
e)missing profiles : click ask when opening
4.conversion options
a)engine : adobe (ace)
b)intent: perceptual or relative colorimetric
c)click : use black point compensations and dither
d) advanced controls
d1) uncheck desaturate monitor colors
d2) uncheck blend rgb colors using gamma
e)select print with preview
f)select document
g)color handling : let the photoshop manage colors
k)select proper printer profile (custom printe
profile is preferred)
l)rendering indent erceptual
m)set your printer driver
n)"best photo" quality option is recmonded
o)select "no color management "in the print driver
p)Print the picture

For more information on custom icc profiles check
www.custtomiccprofiles.com

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Old October 27th 06, 06:33 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

Sven Vandermaas wrote:
Can you please tell me how to do this ? I'm not too familiar with this.
Thanks !

Sven


Tools delivered with a spectophotometer help you to print a test page
with a lot of color patches. After that, use the spectophotometer to
measure each individual patch (more expensive models do that
automatically). The software creates a profile for you for the specific
inks and paper you used.

VirtualV
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Old October 27th 06, 06:34 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

Luis Ortega wrote:
Printing from Photoshop CS2 has become a real headache.
All of the prints are too dark.
The same file, imported into a Word document, prints much better, and an
image from the internet, sent to the printer also prints very well, so I
can't blame the printer. When I take the same file to another computer
running Photoshop 7 and a different printer, it also looks much better.
I bought a Spyder calibration meter and tried to run that but I'm afraid
that I don't really know what to do with the results.
I would appreciate any advice on how to set up the color profiles to get my
images to look like they do on the monitor.
My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 913n and my printer is an Epson Photo
700, and I run Win XP SP2 and use Epson glossy photo paper
Thanks.



If the color management is handled by the printer (driver), make sure
Photoshop isn't doing the color conversions (or visa versa).

VirtualV
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Old October 27th 06, 08:32 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
ben
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

you can manage color with printer driver and get result from
acceptable to excellent . this all depends how you setup and use
printer drivers .If you use printer driver for color management then
there is no point to use this expensive graphics editing software
specially photoshop .
photoshop is a software that can give you pro result if you use proper
setting .
by letting photoshop not to color manage is sending printer a garbage
values.
and you get garbage in = garbage out . which nobody wants.

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Old October 28th 06, 07:38 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.technique.art,uk.rec.photo.misc
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Default Poor prints from Photoshop CS2

In message .com, ben
writes
my suggestion is use correct settint in photoshop , printer driver
and using correct icc profile in your printer . then you can get pro
result . otherwise printing form photoshop is
merely a headache . here are some suggestions to setup photoshop
How to setup photoshop
select edit color settings
1.select "north America prepress 2" in settings



WRONG

From OP's header:-
Newsgroups: alt. photography, rec.photo.misc,
rec.photo.technique.art, uk.rec.photo.misc
Subject: Poor prints from Photoshop CS2
From: Luis Ortega

This was copied to UK.rec.photo.misc and as NTLWorld is a UK ISP why
would he want to set a US setting?

2.working spaces :
a)rgb : adobe rgb (1998)
b)cmyk: u.s web coated (swop) v2


Wrong again.. OP not in US......




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