HOYA SWALLOWS PENTAX !

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:34:50 -0800, "William Graham"
wrote:

I certainly don't mind modifying the Constitution....The method for doing
this is outlined in the document itself....What I object to is redefining
the English language in order to make the document mean something that its
drafters never meant for it to mean, and thereby usurping the method
outlined in the document for modification.

Yeah. And it's only words, anyway. America isn't strong because of
the Constitution. It's strong because of abundant resources. Cheap
labour (often from people the Constitution didn't seem to apply to)
helped too.

Again, your eyes are closed. Check out countries like Brazil, or
Mexico. Vast, untapped, resources, people willing to work, yet are then
world leaders?

Pudentame wrote:
wrote:
Pudentame wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Not a Wankel, a diesel....
Oops. My bad. You were talking about diesels. Reading comprehension
not at its highest level this evening. Carry on....

Could you build a Wankel diesel?

No, but if you direct me to one, I could take a photograph of it!


Ok, let me rephrase that ... Could a Wankel diesel be built, i.e. could
a Wankel design develop sufficient compression for combustion to occur
in the absence of a spark plug?

Probably, as this is mostly a function of the shape of the chamber. But
a very high compression ratio would put extra strain on the seals.

jeremy wrote:

Photographers for whom their lenses are mission-critical are not known for
embracing third party lenses. What do they know that amateurs don't?
Well considering how many people suffer sheeple mentality, I'd say they
care more for the 5 letters emblazoned on the front cap than the glass
quality. I know people who would buy anything with C A N O N on it,
even if it just came out of a dog's butt. But I also know several
working professionals who happily use 3rd party lenses. I know several
who use Tamron 90mm macros and swear by them. One who does a lot of
wildlife work uses the Tamron 200-500, because the overall combination
of size, weight, zoom range and optic quality is better than anything
with the C word on it.
Many 3rd party lenses are just as good or better than the oem lenses.
Even in the budget category, the Sigma budget offerings that get used as
Pentax kit lenses here in Australia, blow the pants off the Canon, Sony
& Nikon equivalents. Move up the scale a bit to the mid end, and once
again the Sigma, Tamron and Tokina offerings hold their own against many
name-brand lenses that are much more expensive. Tokina's ATX-PRO series
lenses are excellent. Sigma's red-ring series and most Tamron lenses are
likewise of excellent quality.
Perhaps as an exercise you should check the specs of some oem-branded
and 3rd party lenses - for example the sony 18-200 and sigma 18-200 come
out as being practically identical except for the finish and price tag -
right down to the weight in grams. Coincidence? maybe. More likely
though that they are identical designs, and possibly even made in the
same factory. Certainly after giving them a bit of a run (admittedly not
a thorough test, but comparing shots taken one after the other of real
world subjects), I couldn't tell any difference in optic quality at all.

I would opt for an OEM's low-end line, or even OEM used equipment, before
messing with third-party gear.
Are you seriously saying you'd opt for Canon's kit 18-55 & 75-300 over a
Tokina ATX-Pro?
I do not see Tokina breaking any sales
records.

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:25:13 -0600, Ron Hunter
wrote:

In addition, the armed citizen still acts as the best limit to the abuse
of citizens by the government.

Eh? So if taxes go up too much, you march on Washington waving
handguns? Or if your local sheriff gets above himself, you shoot
him? What on earth are you talking about?

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:30:17 -0600, Ron Hunter
wrote:

Yeah. And it's only words, anyway. America isn't strong because of
the Constitution. It's strong because of abundant resources. Cheap
labour (often from people the Constitution didn't seem to apply to)
helped too.

Again, your eyes are closed. Check out countries like Brazil, or
Mexico. Vast, untapped, resources, people willing to work, yet are then
world leaders?

Too hot. The nearer to the equator, the less gets done.

And no huge advantage of starting from scratch only a few hundred
years ago with vigorous immigrant stock. Some of whom, remember,
immediately formed communities dedicated to severely restricting
everyone's individual freedoms on religious grounds.

But not, I'm afraid, the lack of a Constitution.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:05:32 -0600, Ron Hunter
wrote:

searched.....Do the airlines have the right to force their customers to give
up their 4th amendment rights? And, if not, then why not?


Forced? In what way. One can always just walk away from that search.

And many, by doing so, would also be walking away from a job.

Blanket searches are done all the time; stationary traffic radar
searches each vehicle to see if the driver is speeding. DUI
checkpoints search each vehicle for drivers driving impaired. Just two
examples that have been upheld by courts.

--
The Coney Island Polar Bear
Club hosted its annual New
Year's Day swim in the frigid
waters off New York City Monday.
It wasn't completely successful.
Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
came out of the water just as
drunk as when they went in.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:39:54 +0000, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 09:48:09 -0800, Ken Lucke
wrote:

Ever heard of the 4th amendment?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Not terribly useful today, is it. So shall we stop hiding behind that
one?

If you're a US citizen, I sincerely hope you don't vote.

--
The Coney Island Polar Bear
Club hosted its annual New
Year's Day swim in the frigid
waters off New York City Monday.
It wasn't completely successful.
Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
came out of the water just as
drunk as when they went in.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:11:24 +0000, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 08:55:59 -0700, Bill Funk
wrote:

The pressure differential at 30K feet would only be 8 psi at the most.
A hole 50 square inches would be a total pressure of 400 pounds. Even
that much pressure would force a body through a hole 7 inches square.
And no hand-held firearm would punch a hole that size into an airliner
cabin. I can't see any non-explosive method of doing that without
drawing a lot of attention to the effort.


You sure about that math? Or did you mean "wouldn't"?

You're right, that should have been "wouldn't."
I hate it whan that happens.

--
The Coney Island Polar Bear
Club hosted its annual New
Year's Day swim in the frigid
waters off New York City Monday.
It wasn't completely successful.
Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
came out of the water just as
drunk as when they went in.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:35:52 -0500, Pudentame
wrote:

Who was the ejected pax? A child or full-size adult?


Christ! Do some fu&%^ Google of your own!

Gee, I'm sorry.
You seemed to have some knowledge of the cited event.
Obviously, I was wrong.

--
The Coney Island Polar Bear
Club hosted its annual New
Year's Day swim in the frigid
waters off New York City Monday.
It wasn't completely successful.
Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
came out of the water just as
drunk as when they went in.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:12:18 -0800, Ken Lucke
wrote:

More likely steel-jacketed, teflon coated, pierce anything cartridges....

Nope. First two clips (10mm, S&W 1076) are loaded with Silvertip
Glasers (or equivalent) 3 up then 4 hydroshocks to follow. In-chamber
round is always a Silvertip Glaser (or equivalent). Third & fourth
clips are hydroshocks & fmj [respecitvely], just in case.

I'm not interested in penetrating car doors, I'm interested in putting
the bad guy down. Permanently. I'll take glasers or the equivalent
any day for doing that at the close range I'm probably ever going to
need them at. I've seen the difference in body damage one can make.
Longer range, I'd have time to switch clips while ducking behind
something.

Are you planning on taking on the Triad all by yourself?

--
The Coney Island Polar Bear
Club hosted its annual New
Year's Day swim in the frigid
waters off New York City Monday.
It wasn't completely successful.
Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
came out of the water just as
drunk as when they went in.