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On May 9, 9:29 pm, "Ken Nadvornick" wrote: Today, ... Today, ... Today, ... Ken Today we have silver gelatin and electronic photography. Today we have acoustic and electronic guitars. Dan Yesterday, a friend of mine could afford a Gibson guitar. Today she cannot afford one, -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 07:30:01 up 4 days, 2 min, 0 users, load average: 3.94, 4.00, 3.99 |
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Wet photography is really dying
On 5/9/2008 9:29 PM Ken Nadvornick spake thus:
"David Nebenzahl" wrote: Wet photography is really dying Another depressing data point: today I saw an Omega enlarger put out on the curb on my way home. (A little 35mm one.) Nearly complete. I suppose it depends on which end of the glass one is trying to drink from... Today, I have the best darkroom I have ever had. Finest equipment. Best supplies. Easily handles all formats from half-frame 35mm to 8x10. Prints possible from reductions to 20x24. You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper? What will we do then? In fact, the very fact that it is now so easy to equip such a darkroom as you have is further evidence on my side. The stuff is so cheap because it's being pitched overboard because of digital. I don't think film and paper will ever go completely out of production, but it will probably soon be relegated to boutique status, and will be much more expensive, much less widely available, and with much less variety. (Perhaps much like vinyl records today.) Enjoy the ride while it lasts, I suppose. -- The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill |
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Rob Morley wrote: In article m, David Nebenzahl kens says... You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper? What will we do then? Wet plates. :-) And dry plates, and homemade paper. But there are too many film cameras in use for film to disappear anytime soon, if ever. Even rollfilm sizes like 620 and 127 are still available. -- Charles Hohenstein (to reply, remove Gene Robinson) "The sad huddle of affluent bedwetters, thumbsuckers, treehuggers, social*climbers, homophiles, quavery ladies, and chronic petition signers that*makes up the current Episcopal Church . . ." ---Thomas Lipscomb |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com... You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper? What will we do then? I believe there will always be film and paper, however I am afraid it will be terribly expensive. One thing that really bothers me is the Rollei film marketing - overpriced and it comes in its own cute little wooden coffin. |
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On 5/11/2008 4:22 PM Charles Hohenstein spake thus:
In article , Rob Morley wrote: In article m, David Nebenzahl ) says... You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper? What will we do then? Wet plates. :-) And dry plates, and homemade paper. But there are too many film cameras in use for film to disappear anytime soon, if ever. Even rollfilm sizes like 620 and 127 are still available. Yes, but read what I said about that: It won't disappear, but it will be expensive, hard to find and restricted in variety. -- The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill |
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"Pico" pico at idrailogid.ten wrote: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper? What will we do then? I believe there will always be film and paper, however I am afraid it will be terribly expensive. One thing that really bothers me is the Rollei film marketing - overpriced and it comes in its own cute little wooden coffin. I'm always curious what people are doing with the Rollei stuff. I've never felt the urge to try it (largely because of the price), but I'd like to know what people are doing with it and why they like it. -- Charles Hohenstein (to reply, remove Gene Robinson) "The sad huddle of affluent bedwetters, thumbsuckers, treehuggers, social*climbers, homophiles, quavery ladies, and chronic petition signers that*makes up the current Episcopal Church . . ." -‹Thomas Lipscomb |
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In article chohensteGeneRobinson-55996A.19222911052008
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com, Charles Hohenstein says... And dry plates, and homemade paper. But there are too many film cameras in use for film to disappear anytime soon, if ever. Even rollfilm sizes like 620 and 127 are still available. 620 is just respooled 120, you can slit and respool 120 to make 127, so those formats can continue as long as rollfilm is available and people can be bothered to mess around with it. I was surprised to note that apparently even 110 and 126 are still commercially available - these aren't so easy to DIY because of the registration holes. |
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"Charles Hohenstein" wrote in message
... I'm always curious what people are doing with the Rollei stuff. I've never felt the urge to try it (largely because of the price), but I'd like to know what people are doing with it and why they like it. Ain't it just rebranded stuff made in Croatia and the Czech Republic? Anyway, the only people I know who have used it are guys who shoot maybe 20 rolls of film a year. Everything's a one-shot experiment to them. They never settle down, never get right with a film and developer combo, then they write a "review" of the film so that their ignorance spreads like a viral meme. |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in
s.com: On 5/8/2008 8:16 PM Ken Hart spake thus: "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... Another depressing data point: today I saw an Omega enlarger put out on the curb on my way home. (A little 35mm one.) Nearly complete. You picked it up, didn't you? There's still a few people buying them on eBay. Nah, they're practically worthless. I see them at my favorite recycled-goods store in Berkeley (Urban Ore) all the time. Geez, I need to come to your neighborhood for a day or two. Heck, I'd have at least paid shipping on that one. |
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