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Old May 11th 08, 09:53 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
David Nebenzahl
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On 5/9/2008 9:29 PM Ken Nadvornick spake thus:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote:

Wet photography is really dying

Another depressing data point: today I saw an Omega enlarger
put out on the curb on my way home. (A little 35mm one.) Nearly
complete.


I suppose it depends on which end of the glass one is trying to drink from...

Today, I have the best darkroom I have ever had. Finest equipment. Best
supplies. Easily handles all formats from half-frame 35mm to 8x10. Prints
possible from reductions to 20x24.


You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean
to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that
since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography
is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out,
what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and
paper? What will we do then?

In fact, the very fact that it is now so easy to equip such a darkroom
as you have is further evidence on my side. The stuff is so cheap
because it's being pitched overboard because of digital.

I don't think film and paper will ever go completely out of production,
but it will probably soon be relegated to boutique status, and will be
much more expensive, much less widely available, and with much less
variety. (Perhaps much like vinyl records today.)

Enjoy the ride while it lasts, I suppose.


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Old May 12th 08, 12:59 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Pico
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...

You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean
to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that
since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is
OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what
happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper?
What will we do then?


I believe there will always be film and paper, however I am afraid it will
be terribly expensive.

One thing that really bothers me is the Rollei film marketing - overpriced
and it comes in its own cute little wooden coffin.



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Old May 12th 08, 01:04 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
David Nebenzahl
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On 5/11/2008 4:22 PM Charles Hohenstein spake thus:

In article ,
Rob Morley wrote:

In article m, David
Nebenzahl ) says...

You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean
to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that
since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography
is OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out,
what happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and
paper? What will we do then?


Wet plates. :-)


And dry plates, and homemade paper. But there are too many film cameras
in use for film to disappear anytime soon, if ever. Even rollfilm sizes
like 620 and 127 are still available.


Yes, but read what I said about that: It won't disappear, but it will be
expensive, hard to find and restricted in variety.


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Old May 12th 08, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Charles Hohenstein
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In article ,
"Pico" pico at idrailogid.ten wrote:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...

You know, it's great you have all that stuff; it really is. I don't mean
to take anything away from that. But how on earth can you propose that
since *you* have all this great stuff that the state of wet photography is
OK? It is for you, for the moment, but as others have pointed out, what
happens when manufacturers inevitably start not producing film and paper?
What will we do then?


I believe there will always be film and paper, however I am afraid it will
be terribly expensive.

One thing that really bothers me is the Rollei film marketing - overpriced
and it comes in its own cute little wooden coffin.


I'm always curious what people are doing with the Rollei stuff. I've
never felt the urge to try it (largely because of the price), but I'd
like to know what people are doing with it and why they like it.

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and chronic petition signers that*makes up the current
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Old May 12th 08, 05:51 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Pico
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"Charles Hohenstein" wrote in message
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I'm always curious what people are doing with the Rollei stuff. I've
never felt the urge to try it (largely because of the price), but I'd
like to know what people are doing with it and why they like it.


Ain't it just rebranded stuff made in Croatia and the Czech Republic?
Anyway, the only people I know who have used it are guys who shoot maybe 20
rolls of film a year. Everything's a one-shot experiment to them. They never
settle down, never get right with a film and developer combo, then they
write a "review" of the film so that their ignorance spreads like a viral
meme.


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Old January 8th 09, 10:47 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH
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David Nebenzahl wrote in
s.com:

On 5/8/2008 8:16 PM Ken Hart spake thus:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...

Another depressing data point: today I saw an Omega enlarger put out
on the curb on my way home. (A little 35mm one.) Nearly complete.


You picked it up, didn't you?
There's still a few people buying them on eBay.


Nah, they're practically worthless. I see them at my favorite
recycled-goods store in Berkeley (Urban Ore) all the time.


Geez, I need to come to your neighborhood for a day or two. Heck, I'd have
at least paid shipping on that one.

 




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