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D3 and Filters
Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Thanks, Mike. |
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In article upHNj.9322$XF3.7656@trnddc04, Mike -- Email Ignored
wrote: Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? in general, the only filters you need are a circular polarizer and neutral density filter. coloured filter effects can be done much more effectively in photoshop. colour correction filters for tungsten light can theoretically reduce noise by matching the light to the sensor's native white point, but it's minor and the d3 does quite well in low light anyway. |
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Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Use the workflow you are more comfortable with. I'm only just starting to use WB on camera rather than using filters. I'm familiar with using colour correction filters so for months I have left the camera on daylight and used correction filters. (NB - make sure the camera is set to daylight, or it will try to adjust out the effect of the filter). I find that the use of correction filters gives me more predictable colour balance than using the various WB settings on camera. Of course the camera WB is faster. BTW - if you are planning on doing B&W, then I'd suggest still using your B&W contrast filters. Photoshop can emulate them but the result just isn't the same. I haven't done tests, but in theory using colour correction filters should give you greater dynamic range in your highlights and shadows when you are at extremes (such as tungsten lighting). Thanks, Mike. |
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, Doug Jewell wrote: BTW - if you are planning on doing B&W, then I'd suggest still using your B&W contrast filters. Photoshop can emulate them but the result just isn't the same. that's a bad idea. due to the bayer pattern, using a colour filter will adversely affect the resolution of the sensor. plus, photoshop can duplicate what the filter would have done and a whole lot more, including selectively applying various filters to different parts of the image. |
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"Mike -- Email Ignored" wrote in message news:upHNj.9322$XF3.7656@trnddc04... Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Thanks, Mike. No. Throw them away except the polarizer. |
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On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored
said: Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Thanks, Mike. Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments. Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you have different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color filters on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin tones and a consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2008041709121075249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored said: Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Thanks, Mike. Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments. Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you have different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color filters on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin tones and a consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible. http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/fi...are_filter.htm ? |
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On 2008-04-17 09:44:25 -0700, "OldBoy" said:
"C J Campbell" wrote in message news:2008041709121075249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored said: Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of color corrections in its electronics, do I still have a use for the myriad colored filters I have collected? Thanks, Mike. Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments. Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you have different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color filters on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin tones and a consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible. http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/fi...are_filter.htm ? I am well aware that there are plenty of software filters out there and I use them. I think Nikon's filter plug-ins for Capture NX are even better than these guys. However, software cannot always replicate the effect of real filters, especially when using spot gels or mixed lighting. Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same. There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software and nailing it in the original image. I know there are photographers who think they are artists and that they can 'feel' the color temperature, or that they can walk into a room and tell you what the white balance should be. I am not one of them. Furthermore, I think that guys who claim they can 'feel' the color temperature are deluded. I have never seen one of them who actually could get the white balance right in tricky lighting situations, or even in an ordinary office with fluorescent ceiling panels. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Bravo! Well put. This naive idea that Photoshop can do everything. is just
that: naive.And dumb also... Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same. There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software and nailing it in the original image. -- Waddling Eagle |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:41:45 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: Bravo! Well put. This naive idea that Photoshop can do everything. is just that: naive.And dumb also... It isn't always possible to "nail it in the original image." That is why Photoshop exists. And I use it regularly on the outliers that can be pulled back from the brink with software. Knowing the limitations of Photoshop, however, is an incentive to "nail it in the original image." Lg Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same. There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software and nailing it in the original image. -- Waddling Eagle |
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