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Old November 28th 04, 03:13 PM
Mike Brodbelt
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/

I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?


They're just slow getting there.

Mike.
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Old November 28th 04, 03:13 PM
Mike Brodbelt
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/

I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?


They're just slow getting there.

Mike.
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Old November 28th 04, 05:37 PM
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In article , maxview80
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Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?


Nikon has an iPod-like separate 30GB HDD unit with 2.5" viewing screen and CF
card reader. It's not built into the D70 & DX cameras, but serves the basic
purpose.

Hunt

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Old November 28th 04, 05:37 PM
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In article , maxview80
@hotmail.com says...

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?


Nikon has an iPod-like separate 30GB HDD unit with 2.5" viewing screen and CF
card reader. It's not built into the D70 & DX cameras, but serves the basic
purpose.

Hunt

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Old November 28th 04, 06:40 PM
Big Bill
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/


That camera uses what the site calls "4GB Microdrive® Removable
Media".
There's a drawing that seems to indicate that the Microdrive they use
is larger than a similar CFG card using a Microdrive, but there's
nothing to indicate that they are not using a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and nothing to indicate that the drawing is to scale.
The site indicates that the Microdrive is removable, and can be "set"
into a PC, but does not indicate the form factor of the removable
drive, or any specific reader to handle their particular Microdrive.
Based on this, I am concluding that they use a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and using Ad-speak to cloud the issue.

I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?


They're just slow getting there.

Mike.


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Old November 28th 04, 06:40 PM
Big Bill
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/


That camera uses what the site calls "4GB Microdrive® Removable
Media".
There's a drawing that seems to indicate that the Microdrive they use
is larger than a similar CFG card using a Microdrive, but there's
nothing to indicate that they are not using a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and nothing to indicate that the drawing is to scale.
The site indicates that the Microdrive is removable, and can be "set"
into a PC, but does not indicate the form factor of the removable
drive, or any specific reader to handle their particular Microdrive.
Based on this, I am concluding that they use a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and using Ad-speak to cloud the issue.

I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?


They're just slow getting there.

Mike.


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Change "g" to "a"
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Old November 28th 04, 06:47 PM
Big Bill
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/


On closer examination, the camera uses Microdrive/CD/SD cards.
No inbuilt hard drive. Just the ability to use CF/Microdrive cards,
with ad-speak used to impress/confuse the reader.

Look he
http://www.jvc.com/presentations/eve...iew/index.html
and look to the right of the box that says "Print Service". It explais
what the icons in the diagram mean.

"When the media created with Everio is set into a PC* or Everio is
connected to a PC via a USB 2.0 port, you can play and store data,
burn it to a DVD, upload it to the Internet or print it.
*May require an adapter."
No mention of where to buy the adapter, nor any indication the adapter
needed is anything other than a standard CF or SD reader.


I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?


They're just slow getting there.

Mike.


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Old November 29th 04, 02:17 AM
Big Bill
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:47:13 -0700, Big Bill wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?


Yes:-

http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/


On closer examination, the camera uses Microdrive/CD/SD cards.


Darn fat fingers! That should read, "Microdrive/CF/SD cards".

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Old November 29th 04, 04:37 AM
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TS wrote:

Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?


Sony makes a camera with a built in CD burner. All you have to
do to view your photos is pop out the CD and place it in your
computer's CDROM.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/cd1000.html

Somehow this configuration isn't popular. Small removable media
seems to be most preferred.

They've already made hard drives small enough to fit in the place of a
type II CF card.. They may have 40+ gigs capacity some day.

Of course, they may have solid state 40 gig cards in the future too.

Who knows :-)




 




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