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Old January 31st 06, 03:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Well I have a Canon 10D with Photoshop 7.01 but something new started
happening. I got a new laptop with window XP, put Photoshop on it and
calibrated with Eye One. Now when I open files from the card reader it says
profile doesn't match the camera profile.

To my knowledge I don't think the camera has ever been profiled.

Photoshop gives me 3 choices. Discard the camera profile. Use the working
space profile or don't color manage. Well don't color manage I can
understand and whatever will print will print. But what is best with the
other two?

Thanks in advance

Mark


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Old January 31st 06, 06:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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It may be:
If you capture jpeg images they are usually in sRGB and will be a mismatch
if your PS workspace is AdobeRGB.
If you capture images in RAW you ought to use AdobeRGB for the camera as
well as for your PS workspace.


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Old January 31st 06, 08:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"bmoag" wrote in message
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It may be:
If you capture jpeg images they are usually in sRGB and will be a mismatch
if your PS workspace is AdobeRGB.
If you capture images in RAW you ought to use AdobeRGB for the camera as
well as for your PS workspace.

Well I think you are on the right track, but let me add a little more
information. I do use both RAW for most thing, but occasionally use JPG.
Looking in I see the profile in Photoshop for sRGB as you recommended for
JPG, and Adobe RGB as you recommend for RAW. What is being used is the
custom profile for the monitor created by Eye One. I think this is the
one that will allow the printer and the software to communicate the best for
the best prints but not sure.


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Old February 1st 06, 12:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"mark" wrote in message
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"bmoag" wrote in message
t...
It may be:
If you capture jpeg images they are usually in sRGB and will be a
mismatch if your PS workspace is AdobeRGB.
If you capture images in RAW you ought to use AdobeRGB for the camera as
well as for your PS workspace.

Well I think you are on the right track, but let me add a little more
information. I do use both RAW for most thing, but occasionally use JPG.
Looking in I see the profile in Photoshop for sRGB as you recommended for
JPG, and Adobe RGB as you recommend for RAW. What is being used is the
custom profile for the monitor created by Eye One. I think this is the
one that will allow the printer and the software to communicate the best
for the best prints but not sure.


Hi.

You should not be using the "Eye One" Monitor Profile as your working space
profile.

In PS go to Edit Colour Settings. In the Working Spaces section select
Adobe RGB as your working Space Profile.

While you have the Drop Down list in sight scroll upwards until you can see
Monitor RGB. Along side it should show the name you have for your Eye One
Profile.
Then remember to select Adobe RGB as your Working Space Profile.

If your Eye One Profile was not your Monitor Profile, in Windows Display
Properties Setting Advanced Colour Management, select it and set it as
"Default"

This will at least get you started on the correct route, but you need to do
a little research on Colour Management in order to understand the basic
principles. Have a look at the PS "help" files, or
www.computer-darkroom.com for an explanation of all the bits.

Roy G


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Old February 1st 06, 04:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"mark" wrote in message
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"bmoag" wrote in message
t...
It may be:
If you capture jpeg images they are usually in sRGB and will be a
mismatch if your PS workspace is AdobeRGB.
If you capture images in RAW you ought to use AdobeRGB for the camera as
well as for your PS workspace.

Well I think you are on the right track, but let me add a little more
information. I do use both RAW for most thing, but occasionally use JPG.
Looking in I see the profile in Photoshop for sRGB as you recommended for
JPG, and Adobe RGB as you recommend for RAW. What is being used is the
custom profile for the monitor created by Eye One. I think this is the
one that will allow the printer and the software to communicate the best
for the best prints but not sure.


Hi.

You should not be using the "Eye One" Monitor Profile as your working
space profile.

In PS go to Edit Colour Settings. In the Working Spaces section select
Adobe RGB as your working Space Profile.

While you have the Drop Down list in sight scroll upwards until you can
see Monitor RGB. Along side it should show the name you have for your Eye
One Profile.
Then remember to select Adobe RGB as your Working Space Profile.

If your Eye One Profile was not your Monitor Profile, in Windows Display
Properties Setting Advanced Colour Management, select it and set it
as "Default"

This will at least get you started on the correct route, but you need to
do a little research on Colour Management in order to understand the basic
principles. Have a look at the PS "help" files, or
www.computer-darkroom.com for an explanation of all the bits.

Roy G
Thanks for the help. The monitor profile done by Eye One is the default on
the monitor and always was. I think I understand that profile is telling
the monitor what to display, where the workspace is telling it what data to
deal with. Will try a few prints and see if anything fouls up but I
wouldn't expect it. Color management has been the biggest challenge Ive had
in the digital learning curve. Anyone else have the same problem?

Mark


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Old February 1st 06, 05:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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The monitor works through Windows, in dependent of Photoshop. The
default install of Photoshop sets its color space to sRGB so if you
have your camera set to Adobe RGB, you will get the message you have.
No biggy, just go to edit/color space in Photoshop and change the
default to AdobeRGB or set your camera/RAW processor to sRGB.
Used to print other folks work and this happened all the time. Just
remember if you start with sRGB color space switching to AdobeRGB will
not increase the color space it just creates more empty territory
around the sRGB space. But if you use AdobeRGB as the original color
space save this with your original, you can switch to sRGB that will
restrict your color space for web use, some photoprinters etc.

Tom

 




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