Camera shake and lp/mm

"Hemi4268" wrote in message
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The experience here is that handholding either kills a shot or doesn't.
Maybe 1 in 3 shots at 1/60th (Mamiya 645, 35, 55, and 110mm lenses) will
be
useless, but usually at least 1 in 3 will be fine. At 1/30, I use a
tripod,
period.

Computer modeling of the math involved in the interaction between camera
shake
and resolution would support this 1 in 3 results.

Those of us with a tremor aren't in the equasion.

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.

As David noted, there is also a personal physical attributes aspect to
things; in most cases, larger MF cameras are steadier than 35mm SLRs of
lighter weight, up to a breaking or "fatigue" point (in his case a 150mm
lens), where you start getting tremors and so on. Conversely, some designs
such as the TLR may be very stable for most users. If you hold your MF SLR
at waist level with the WLF, it is simply amazing how much more steady the
average hasselblad or kowa 6 SLR is in this position with the WLF at the
body's center of mass.

One of the columnists in Modern Photo (female) had a number of (annual?)
columns on holding camera steady tips, some of which were quite good.

grins bobm
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* Robert Monaghan POB 752182 Southern Methodist Univ. Dallas Tx 75275 *
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the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.

As David noted, there is also a personal physical attributes aspect to
things; in most cases, larger MF cameras are steadier than 35mm SLRs of
lighter weight, up to a breaking or "fatigue" point (in his case a 150mm
lens), where you start getting tremors and so on. Conversely, some designs
such as the TLR may be very stable for most users. If you hold your MF SLR
at waist level with the WLF, it is simply amazing how much more steady the
average hasselblad or kowa 6 SLR is in this position with the WLF at the
body's center of mass.

One of the columnists in Modern Photo (female) had a number of (annual?)
columns on holding camera steady tips, some of which were quite good.

grins bobm
--
************************************************** *********************
* Robert Monaghan POB 752182 Southern Methodist Univ. Dallas Tx 75275 *
********************Standard Disclaimers Apply*************************

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.


Yes but a 3 shot burst a 8 FPS might do it.

Larry

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.


Yes but a 3 shot burst a 8 FPS might do it.

Larry

Hemi4268 wrote:

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.


Yes but a 3 shot burst a 8 FPS might do it.

A 3 shot burst may produce 3 shaken pictures. The next 3 may be shaken too.
The next...
Somewhere, at some time you may be lucky and creat a long series of perfect
shots. You still don't know when...
It may even never happen.
Every shot you take is a gamble at unfavourable odds.

That's the trouble with putting your faith in the hands of luck and/or
statistics. Which in this case happen to be your own hands. ;-)

Hemi4268 wrote:

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.


Yes but a 3 shot burst a 8 FPS might do it.

A 3 shot burst may produce 3 shaken pictures. The next 3 may be shaken too.
The next...
Somewhere, at some time you may be lucky and creat a long series of perfect
shots. You still don't know when...
It may even never happen.
Every shot you take is a gamble at unfavourable odds.

That's the trouble with putting your faith in the hands of luck and/or
statistics. Which in this case happen to be your own hands. ;-)

Hemi4268 wrote:

the problem is you don't get to know which 1 out of 3 shots will be okay,
or worse, you only get one shot, and have 2 out of 3 chances it isn't
first quality due to motion etc.


Yes but a 3 shot burst a 8 FPS might do it.

A 3 shot burst may produce 3 shaken pictures. The next 3 may be shaken too.
The next...
Somewhere, at some time you may be lucky and creat a long series of perfect
shots. You still don't know when...
It may even never happen.
Every shot you take is a gamble at unfavourable odds.

That's the trouble with putting your faith in the hands of luck and/or
statistics. Which in this case happen to be your own hands. ;-)

A 3 shot burst may produce 3 shaken pictures. The next 3 may be shaken too.
The next...
Somewhere, at some time you may be lucky and creat a long series of perfect

Actually it more like throwing a die. It could end up on the number 6 all
three times but mostly it doesn't.

Larry

A 3 shot burst may produce 3 shaken pictures. The next 3 may be shaken too.
The next...
Somewhere, at some time you may be lucky and creat a long series of perfect

Actually it more like throwing a die. It could end up on the number 6 all
three times but mostly it doesn't.

Larry