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OT? Panasonic FZ20, first shots in low light
Ryadia wrote:
Lets start a precedent for this group and accept a post clearly not about a DSLR, shall we? If anyone is interested, I shot some low light pics with the new Panasonic FZ20 I bought last week. I bought it to shoot silently inside churches and for those moments when the DSLRs are just too clumsy. http://www.technoaussie.com/gallery/FZ20-Pics I might point out it's performance in good light is not too shabby at all. And all the chatter about high noise in low light doesn't seem to be as bad in real life! Douglas The folks in the newsgroup: rec.photo.digital.zlr would probably be interested as well. I have stuck with the lowest ISO setting (80) when using my FZ5, and my observation is that at long exposures it may do an automatic dark frame subtraction. Haven't played enough to confirm that, though. Which, specifically, are the low-light shots in that gallery? David |
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"David J Taylor" wrote in message k... Douglas The folks in the newsgroup: rec.photo.digital.zlr would probably be interested as well. I have stuck with the lowest ISO setting (80) when using my FZ5, and my observation is that at long exposures it may do an automatic dark frame subtraction. Haven't played enough to confirm that, though. Which, specifically, are the low-light shots in that gallery? David Maybe your idea of low light and mine might vary. I thought f2.8 at 1/20th and ISO 200 was low light but on reflection, maybe it's just natural light indoors. anyway, to shoot the same with a 20D (hand held of course) would require 1/125th to avoid shutter shudder fuz so a 20D, DSLR would need to either be on a tripod or use considerable higher ISO number than the FZ. The noise thing is, I think, blown out of proportions too. If you can shoot a scene at 200 ISO which requires 800 ISO from a low noise camera, then high noise at high ISO doesn't have the same meaning as the numbers would seem to suggest. I though my post would interest those who use their cameras inside without flash. The inside shots were in my reception area which has no windows, only reflected light from the gallery area. I used to be able to take OK (hand held) shots with my 10D at 1/60th with an IS lens but I would never attempt that with a 20D due to the increased mirror slap. Over all, I think that I cannot do without my DSLRs but I also think that rangefinder cameras have a lot of benefit in questionable lighting. Although I had mixed lighting, Fluros, tungsten and daylight, the FZ read it better tahn the Canons do. Douglas |
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Ryadia@home wrote:
[] Maybe your idea of low light and mine might vary. I thought f2.8 at 1/20th and ISO 200 was low light but on reflection, maybe it's just natural light indoors. anyway, to shoot the same with a 20D (hand held of course) would require 1/125th to avoid shutter shudder fuz so a 20D, DSLR would need to either be on a tripod or use considerable higher ISO number than the FZ. The noise thing is, I think, blown out of proportions too. If you can shoot a scene at 200 ISO which requires 800 ISO from a low noise camera, then high noise at high ISO doesn't have the same meaning as the numbers would seem to suggest. Living where I do, such light levels are not unknown outdoors in the Winter!, but yes, having the IS allows hand-held with the FZ20 where a higher ISO on a DSLR would be another way of getting a similar result. I though my post would interest those who use their cameras inside without flash. The inside shots were in my reception area which has no windows, only reflected light from the gallery area. I used to be able to take OK (hand held) shots with my 10D at 1/60th with an IS lens but I would never attempt that with a 20D due to the increased mirror slap. Over all, I think that I cannot do without my DSLRs but I also think that rangefinder cameras have a lot of benefit in questionable lighting. Although I had mixed lighting, Fluros, tungsten and daylight, the FZ read it better tahn the Canons do. Thanks for the report. I guess that low-light to me means inside churches where you're trying to photograph the architecture. I recently had some 2-second shots with the FZ20 in Barcelona Cathedral with the camera firmly wedged (poor man's tripod) and was very pleased with the results. Laying the camera on its back is my favourite trick for ceiling photos, but the protuberances on today's cameras don't make this easy! Cheers, David |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:06:28 GMT, David J Taylor
wrote: Thanks for the report. I guess that low-light to me means inside churches where you're trying to photograph the architecture. I recently had some 2-second shots with the FZ20 in Barcelona Cathedral with the camera firmly wedged (poor man's tripod) and was very pleased with the results. Do you have these online? Care to post a link? I am fond of Barcelona and I would enjoy seeing these photos. -- Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400 x215 Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing. --Josh Micah Marshall |
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Ben Rosengart wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:06:28 GMT, David J Taylor wrote: Thanks for the report. I guess that low-light to me means inside churches where you're trying to photograph the architecture. I recently had some 2-second shots with the FZ20 in Barcelona Cathedral with the camera firmly wedged (poor man's tripod) and was very pleased with the results. Do you have these online? Care to post a link? I am fond of Barcelona and I would enjoy seeing these photos. Sorry, no I don't. Folks, I'd suggest trimming any response to just the ZLR group. Cheers, David |
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"David J Taylor" wrote in message . uk... Ryadia@home wrote: [] I recently had some 2-second shots with the FZ20 in Barcelona Cathedral with the camera firmly wedged (poor man's tripod) and was very pleased with the results. Shame the Cathedral was covered in scaffold and netting, as the outside absolutely stunning. It's about time they knuckled down and got to work on it .... they don't seem to have made hardly any progress with it since I was there in May 2003 ! |
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I am well pleased with FZ20 low light shots and OIS is crisp and sharp
at F2.8 1/4 sec. Great camera. |
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