20D vs 1D mkII

So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:44:20 GMT, "you know who maybe"
wrote:

So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?



Not even close. Read the reviews

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:44:20 GMT, "you know who maybe"
wrote:

So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?



Not even close. Read the reviews

From: "you know who maybe"

So the 20D sensor is the same

Nope, the 20D sensor is smaller with a 1.6x magnifier effect. The 1D M II has
a 1.3x effect.

but it's missing a lot of features, less focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

20D needs f/5.6 or wider to AF (like all the consumer grade Canons), M II will
AF with lens/tele-converter combos at f/8 (ie, f/4 lens with 2x t/c or f/5.6
lens with 1.4x t/c). Actually if you stack a 1.4x and a 2x on an f/4 lens
(f/11 effective) the Mark II will still AF, which is surprising. Also the
motor drive has a faster frame rate and the buffer is deeper so you can shoot a
longer burst.

http://www.inkjetart.com/news/archiv...1-10-04.html#6 for a good run-down
of the differences.

From: "you know who maybe"

So the 20D sensor is the same

Nope, the 20D sensor is smaller with a 1.6x magnifier effect. The 1D M II has
a 1.3x effect.

but it's missing a lot of features, less focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

20D needs f/5.6 or wider to AF (like all the consumer grade Canons), M II will
AF with lens/tele-converter combos at f/8 (ie, f/4 lens with 2x t/c or f/5.6
lens with 1.4x t/c). Actually if you stack a 1.4x and a 2x on an f/4 lens
(f/11 effective) the Mark II will still AF, which is surprising. Also the
motor drive has a faster frame rate and the buffer is deeper so you can shoot a
longer burst.

http://www.inkjetart.com/news/archiv...1-10-04.html#6 for a good run-down
of the differences.

"you know who maybe" wrote in message
...
So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less
focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

Different sensor, the 20D is a 1.6X FOV (22.5 x 15.0 mm CMOS sensor) versus
the 1D mk.II 1.3X FOV (28.7 x 19.1 mm CMOS). So pretty much a different
dSLR, some do call it the mk. II lite...

"you know who maybe" wrote in message
...
So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less
focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

Different sensor, the 20D is a 1.6X FOV (22.5 x 15.0 mm CMOS sensor) versus
the 1D mk.II 1.3X FOV (28.7 x 19.1 mm CMOS). So pretty much a different
dSLR, some do call it the mk. II lite...

"you know who maybe" wrote in message
...
So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less
focus
points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

Different sensor, the 20D is a 1.6X FOV (22.5 x 15.0 mm CMOS sensor) versus
the 1D mk.II 1.3X FOV (28.7 x 19.1 mm CMOS). So pretty much a different
dSLR, some do call it the mk. II lite...

"you know who maybe" wrote in
:

So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less
focus points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

Though both 8MPix the 1DMkII has a physically larger sensor which gives a
greater light gathering capability.

The Canon 1DMkII has many advantages over the 20D, check dpreview.com, here
are some important ones (IMO):
Water/dust seals
45 pt AF
AF at f8
Faster more accurate AF
8.5 fps (vs 5fps)
20 frames buffer RAW (vs 6)
40 frames buffer JPEG (vs 23)
More robust design, shutter good for over 200000 activations
Both CF and SD cards, can write both simultaneously
Spot/multispot metering
ISO 50 option
Integrated vertical grip (vs optional vertical grip)

Canon also claim a greater dynamic range on the 1DMkII. This could be
related to the larger pixels on the big sensor, the 20D has smaller pixels
than the 300D, 10D and 1DsMkII, whereas the 1DMkII has bigger pixels than
any of the other cameras in the current EOS range (except the older 1Ds if
it is not yet discontinued).



--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 12-Nov-04)
"There are 10 types of people, those that
understand binary and those that don't"

"you know who maybe" wrote in
:

So the 20D sensor is the same but it's missing a lot of features, less
focus points, no weather-proofing. Is that basically it?

Though both 8MPix the 1DMkII has a physically larger sensor which gives a
greater light gathering capability.

The Canon 1DMkII has many advantages over the 20D, check dpreview.com, here
are some important ones (IMO):
Water/dust seals
45 pt AF
AF at f8
Faster more accurate AF
8.5 fps (vs 5fps)
20 frames buffer RAW (vs 6)
40 frames buffer JPEG (vs 23)
More robust design, shutter good for over 200000 activations
Both CF and SD cards, can write both simultaneously
Spot/multispot metering
ISO 50 option
Integrated vertical grip (vs optional vertical grip)

Canon also claim a greater dynamic range on the 1DMkII. This could be
related to the larger pixels on the big sensor, the 20D has smaller pixels
than the 300D, 10D and 1DsMkII, whereas the 1DMkII has bigger pixels than
any of the other cameras in the current EOS range (except the older 1Ds if
it is not yet discontinued).



--
Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 12-Nov-04)
"There are 10 types of people, those that
understand binary and those that don't"