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January 31st 05, 09:09 PM
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Jeremy Nixon wrote: John Francis wrote: Yes, it uses the same converter as the full Photoshop. No it doesn't. Bah, sorry. I'd have sworn I read that it did. Well, as I said, it sort of does. The latest Adobe Camera Raw update (version 2.4) is for both Photoshop CS and Elements 3.0 But if you use it through Elements you don't get access to all the controls you get in Photoshop CS; effectively you only get to use a lot of the settings at their default values. That's generally the idea behind Elements. It uses many of the same algorithms, etc., as Photoshop CS, but with a simplified interface (sacrificing some control in favour of ease-of-use). It's still a good replacement for most of the proprietary RAW file converters - I bought Elements just so I could get access to Adobe Camera Raw (I have a Pentax *ist-D, and the supplied RAW converter leaves a lot to be desired). But I've also seen how much additional control there is at RAW conversion time in full Photoshop CS (upsizing and applying your own tone curves, amongst other things). 
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January 31st 05, 11:08 PM
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What about Photoshop LE?
"John Francis" wrote in message ... In article , Jeremy Nixon wrote: John Francis wrote: Yes, it uses the same converter as the full Photoshop. No it doesn't. Bah, sorry. I'd have sworn I read that it did. Well, as I said, it sort of does. The latest Adobe Camera Raw update (version 2.4) is for both Photoshop CS and Elements 3.0 But if you use it through Elements you don't get access to all the controls you get in Photoshop CS; effectively you only get to use a lot of the settings at their default values. That's generally the idea behind Elements. It uses many of the same algorithms, etc., as Photoshop CS, but with a simplified interface (sacrificing some control in favour of ease-of-use). It's still a good replacement for most of the proprietary RAW file converters - I bought Elements just so I could get access to Adobe Camera Raw (I have a Pentax *ist-D, and the supplied RAW converter leaves a lot to be desired). But I've also seen how much additional control there is at RAW conversion time in full Photoshop CS (upsizing and applying your own tone curves, amongst other things).
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#13
February 1st 05, 02:12 AM
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Didn't Elements replace Photoshop LE in the product lineup?
In article , Sheldon wrote: What about Photoshop LE? "John Francis" wrote in message ... In article , Jeremy Nixon wrote: John Francis wrote: Yes, it uses the same converter as the full Photoshop. No it doesn't. Bah, sorry. I'd have sworn I read that it did. Well, as I said, it sort of does. The latest Adobe Camera Raw update (version 2.4) is for both Photoshop CS and Elements 3.0 But if you use it through Elements you don't get access to all the controls you get in Photoshop CS; effectively you only get to use a lot of the settings at their default values. That's generally the idea behind Elements. It uses many of the same algorithms, etc., as Photoshop CS, but with a simplified interface (sacrificing some control in favour of ease-of-use). It's still a good replacement for most of the proprietary RAW file converters - I bought Elements just so I could get access to Adobe Camera Raw (I have a Pentax *ist-D, and the supplied RAW converter leaves a lot to be desired). But I've also seen how much additional control there is at RAW conversion time in full Photoshop CS (upsizing and applying your own tone curves, amongst other things).
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February 1st 05, 04:16 AM
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"John Francis" wrote in message ... Didn't Elements replace Photoshop LE in the product lineup? Yes it did, but I found that Photoshop LE looks and feels exactly like Photoshop. Just missing some high-end features. If you can use one you can use the other. In article , Sheldon wrote: What about Photoshop LE? "John Francis" wrote in message ... In article , Jeremy Nixon wrote: John Francis wrote: Yes, it uses the same converter as the full Photoshop. No it doesn't. Bah, sorry. I'd have sworn I read that it did. Well, as I said, it sort of does. The latest Adobe Camera Raw update (version 2.4) is for both Photoshop CS and Elements 3.0 But if you use it through Elements you don't get access to all the controls you get in Photoshop CS; effectively you only get to use a lot of the settings at their default values. That's generally the idea behind Elements. It uses many of the same algorithms, etc., as Photoshop CS, but with a simplified interface (sacrificing some control in favour of ease-of-use). It's still a good replacement for most of the proprietary RAW file converters - I bought Elements just so I could get access to Adobe Camera Raw (I have a Pentax *ist-D, and the supplied RAW converter leaves a lot to be desired). But I've also seen how much additional control there is at RAW conversion time in full Photoshop CS (upsizing and applying your own tone curves, amongst other things).
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February 1st 05, 07:35 AM
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My point is that there isn't a "Photoshop LE" that corresponds to Photoshop CS (execept inasmuch as Elements 3.0 fills that role). And in some places (including the interface to the Raw converter) Photoshop CS presents a very different interface to the one found in those earlier versions. The Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop CS/Elements 3.0 doesn't work in those earlier versions of Photoshop, either. You can use most plugins built for Photoshop 7 in Photoshop CS, but not vice versa. In article , Sheldon wrote: "John Francis" wrote in message ... Didn't Elements replace Photoshop LE in the product lineup? Yes it did, but I found that Photoshop LE looks and feels exactly like Photoshop. Just missing some high-end features. If you can use one you can use the other. In article , Sheldon wrote: What about Photoshop LE? "John Francis" wrote in message ... In article , Jeremy Nixon wrote: John Francis wrote: Yes, it uses the same converter as the full Photoshop. No it doesn't. Bah, sorry. I'd have sworn I read that it did. Well, as I said, it sort of does. The latest Adobe Camera Raw update (version 2.4) is for both Photoshop CS and Elements 3.0 But if you use it through Elements you don't get access to all the controls you get in Photoshop CS; effectively you only get to use a lot of the settings at their default values. That's generally the idea behind Elements. It uses many of the same algorithms, etc., as Photoshop CS, but with a simplified interface (sacrificing some control in favour of ease-of-use). It's still a good replacement for most of the proprietary RAW file converters - I bought Elements just so I could get access to Adobe Camera Raw (I have a Pentax *ist-D, and the supplied RAW converter leaves a lot to be desired). But I've also seen how much additional control there is at RAW conversion time in full Photoshop CS (upsizing and applying your own tone curves, amongst other things).
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