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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
In article , Bill W
wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. they're prolonging the useful life of the device, avoiding unexpected shutdowns due to aging batteries. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On 2017-12-21 12:06, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. This shouldn't come as a discovery. It should be in Apple's documentation online. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:22:36 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote: On Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:06:36 UTC-5, Bill W wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. Why is it these Millenial-friendly hightech companies all think they know better than the consumer? Why not advise people that this is the case and let them CHOOSE to reduce the speed of the device? I agree that they should have notified that they were doing that, but this is being portrayed as just another nefarious act by Apple - or really just another evil tech company of your choice. I think the intentions were good, even if the method wasn't. And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? People who can afford pricey smartphones can probably afford to replace the battery. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
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RichA wrote: Why is it these Millenial-friendly hightech companies all think they know better than the consumer? because the various companies have extensive repair, crash and performance data that users do not. Why not advise people that this is the case and let them CHOOSE to reduce the speed of the device? because if users choose wrong (which they invariably will), the device may crash, be permanently damaged or possibly worse. new android malware cranks the cpu so hard that the phone self-destructs: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12...ning-malware-l oapi-capable-physically-damaging-phones/ The cryptocurrency mining module maintains a load sufficiently high enough to cause physical damage to a test device after two daysthe above photo shows a device which overheated to the point the battery bulged. many computers throttle cpu speed when it gets too hot. otherwise, it will stop working entirely. users don't like when that happens. some nikon flashes shut down when they get too warm. users don't like when that happens either, and many consider nikon's threshold to be too low. And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? nothing. nobody is preventing anyone from doing exactly that. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On 2017-12-22 01:22, RichA wrote:
On Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:06:36 UTC-5, Bill W wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. Why is it these Millenial-friendly hightech companies all think they know better than the consumer? Why not advise people that this is the case and let them CHOOSE to reduce the speed of the device? And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? Apparently old batteries simply can not supply the peak power demanded by the phone, so what would happen is that the phone would simply crash or power off instantly, which is worse that running slower. Yes, they should tell users of the situation. But it is not evil. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On 12/21/2017 7:38 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , snip And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? nothing. nobody is preventing anyone from doing exactly that. How easy is it to replace a battery in an iPhone. From what I read, not very. Also see the comments to a pending NY right to repair bill. You will have to look for them. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+8+Plus+Battery+Replacement/98260 Don't bother telling us that most people get anew phone, before the battery craps out. -- PeterN |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
In article , PeterN
wrote: And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? nothing. nobody is preventing anyone from doing exactly that. How easy is it to replace a battery in an iPhone. it depends on the iphone, but generally it's not that hard for someone comfortable opening modern electronic devices. the tools are also readily available for those who don't already have them, sometimes included with the battery, as a complete kit. for those not comfortable opening it up, apple charges $79 and that comes with a full warranty and many times can be done while you wait at an apple store. third party repair shops can also swap batteries, however, both prices and quality of work can vary. shop around. From what I read, not very. keep reading. Also see the comments to a pending NY right to repair bill. You will have to look for them. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+8+Plus+Battery+Replacement/98260 i'm well aware of the right to repair bill and that ifixit, who has a vested interest in it, is aggressively pushing for it. now go check out what ifixit has to say about replacing a battery in a microsoft surface laptop: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+Teardown/92915 Verdict: The Surface Laptop is not a laptop. Itıs a glue-filled monstrosity. There is nothing about it that is upgradable or long-lasting, and it literally canıt be opened without destroying it. (Show us the procedure, Microsoft, weıd love to be wrong.) .... The battery is difficult and dangerous to replace, giving the device a limited lifespan. in other words, when (not if) the battery fails, you have a very nice and expensive paperweight. perhaps the suede alcantara keyboard will ease the pain. https://www.windowscentral.com/sites...styles/larger/ public/field/image/2017/03/signature-type-cover-01.jpg Don't bother telling us that most people get anew phone, before the battery craps out. given that the battery is rated to last 5 years at 80% capacity and most people keep their phone 2-3 years, they absolutely do. the battery is also cheap to replace for those who wish to keep the same phone for longer than that. |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On 2017-12-22 00:35:06 +0000, Bill W said:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:22:36 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: On Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:06:36 UTC-5, Bill W wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. Why is it these Millenial-friendly hightech companies all think they know better than the consumer? Why not advise people that this is the case and let them CHOOSE to reduce the speed of the device? I agree that they should have notified that they were doing that, but this is being portrayed as just another nefarious act by Apple - or really just another evil tech company of your choice. I think the intentions were good, even if the method wasn't. And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? People who can afford pricey smartphones can probably afford to replace the battery. There would not be much harm in making phone and laptop batteries user replaceble again would it? They used to be. Other than loss in sales, that is... It would ad a mere1mm to the thicknes of the device... -- teleportation kills |
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Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:00:55 +0100, android wrote:
On 2017-12-22 00:35:06 +0000, Bill W said: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:22:36 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: On Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:06:36 UTC-5, Bill W wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 04:50:33 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745 Why the scare quotes around "save batteries"? It appears that's exactly what their intention is. Why is it these Millenial-friendly hightech companies all think they know better than the consumer? Why not advise people that this is the case and let them CHOOSE to reduce the speed of the device? I agree that they should have notified that they were doing that, but this is being portrayed as just another nefarious act by Apple - or really just another evil tech company of your choice. I think the intentions were good, even if the method wasn't. And what is so dire about getting a battery changed? People who can afford pricey smartphones can probably afford to replace the battery. There would not be much harm in making phone and laptop batteries user replaceble again would it? They used to be. Other than loss in sales, that is... It would ad a mere1mm to the thicknes of the device... I agree with that. Even though they are still replaceable in many cases, it takes some dexterity. |
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