FOUR NEW ultra-speed AF-S NIKKOR TELE LENSES

This news deserves a thread by itself! It comes to me from a
Nikon insider I have known for ten years.

This is kind of hard to swallow, and I cannot claim to understand
Nikon's priorities. But it seems that the next few Nikkors to be
released (all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users) are

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 200mm f1.8D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 300mm f2D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 400mm f2.5D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 70-200mm f2.5D

Each of the four sets new standards for speed in its focal range.

Since the D3 and D700 give unsurpassed high ISO performance, usable
up to 3200 ISO for most applications (and passable at 6400 ISO), with
D3X almost as good, why is there this obsession with speed?

I don't have the weights as yet but they are going to be phenomenal.
Specially the 300mm f2 (158mm front filter size if you wanted to use
it!) and the 400mm f2.5

f2.5 is not such a strange aperture, Nikon used it before on the
105mm approx. half a century ago. It is more than 1/3rd stop faster than
an f2.8.

I suppose Nikon believe depth of field control will sell these monster
lenses. But wasn't 200mm f2 fast enough?

ASAAR wrote:
This news deserves a thread by itself! It comes to me from a
Nikon insider I have known for ten years.

This is kind of hard to swallow, and I cannot claim to understand
Nikon's priorities. But it seems that the next few Nikkors to be
released

Well I won't be able to afford any of those!


(all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users)

I don't think FX will ever be consumer priced at least until there some
whole new technology.


are

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 200mm f1.8D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 300mm f2D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 400mm f2.5D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 70-200mm f2.5D

Each of the four sets new standards for speed in its focal range.

--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com

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Paul Furman wrote:
ASAAR wrote:
[]
(all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users)

I don't think FX will ever be consumer priced at least until there
some whole new technology.

... and DX still provides the lightest and most compact cameras and lenses.

David

"ASAAR" wrote in message
...

This news deserves a thread by itself! It comes to me from a
Nikon insider I have known for ten years.

This is kind of hard to swallow, and I cannot claim to understand
Nikon's priorities. But it seems that the next few Nikkors to be
released (all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users) are

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 200mm f1.8D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 300mm f2D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 400mm f2.5D

Nikkor AF-S VR-II 70-200mm f2.5D

Each of the four sets new standards for speed in its focal range.

Since the D3 and D700 give unsurpassed high ISO performance, usable
up to 3200 ISO for most applications (and passable at 6400 ISO), with
D3X almost as good, why is there this obsession with speed?

I don't have the weights as yet but they are going to be phenomenal.
Specially the 300mm f2 (158mm front filter size if you wanted to use
it!) and the 400mm f2.5

f2.5 is not such a strange aperture, Nikon used it before on the
105mm approx. half a century ago. It is more than 1/3rd stop faster than
an f2.8.

I suppose Nikon believe depth of field control will sell these monster
lenses. But wasn't 200mm f2 fast enough?


My Nikon knowledge is limited, but sounds a strange move if it were true.
They need to sort out other lenses in their range before concentrating on
highly specialised lenses like these. Are you sure they're FX, not DX?

Alan Smithee wrote:
[]
My Nikon knowledge is limited, but sounds a strange move if it were
true. They need to sort out other lenses in their range before
concentrating on highly specialised lenses like these. Are you sure
they're FX, not DX?

Once you get beyond a certain telephoto focal length - somewhere around
70mm - it may be no significantly greater cost to go for a full-frame (FX)
image circle.

David

David J Taylor wrote:
Paul Furman wrote:
ASAAR wrote:
[]
(all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users)

I don't think FX will ever be consumer priced at least until there
some whole new technology.

.. and DX still provides the lightest and most compact cameras and lenses.

And put that 400 f/2.5 on DX for an even more spectacular view.

--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com

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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:17:32 -0800, Paul Furman wrote:

ASAAR wrote:
This news deserves a thread by itself! It comes to me from a
Nikon insider I have known for ten years.

This is kind of hard to swallow, and I cannot claim to understand
Nikon's priorities. But it seems that the next few Nikkors to be
released

Well I won't be able to afford any of those!


(all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users)

I don't think FX will ever be consumer priced at least until there some
whole new technology.

Your reply was to a forged message, and not even a carefully
crafted one. One of many hints in the header was :

Organization:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:51:05 -0000, Alan Smithee wrote:

I suppose Nikon believe depth of field control will sell these monster
lenses. But wasn't 200mm f2 fast enough?

My Nikon knowledge is limited, but sounds a strange move if it were true.
They need to sort out other lenses in their range before concentrating on
highly specialised lenses like these. Are you sure they're FX, not DX?

I didn't post that message. See my reply to PF. The part from
the header that I quoted :

Organization:

suggests the source of the forger (part of which you also quoted),
but it could also be a ruffian's revenge, considering the content or
from one of the ng's prolific spammers.

"ASAAR" wrote:
Since the D3 and D700 give unsurpassed high ISO performance, usable
up to 3200 ISO for most applications (and passable at 6400 ISO), with
D3X almost as good, why is there this obsession with speed?

Because you need the speed to leverage the sensitivity into an interesting
range: f/2.0 at ISO 3200 looks a lot better than f/4.0 at ISO 12,800, no
matter how good your ISO 3200 is.

I don't have the weights as yet but they are going to be phenomenal.
Specially the 300mm f2 (158mm front filter size if you wanted to use
it!) and the 400mm f2.5

Yep. Definitely only for the "my tripod is bigger than yours" crowd.

And they'll be phenomenally expensive as well.

--
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

"Paul Furman" wrote:

(all FX of course, DX is dead except for a few token bits
of glass crumbs that may be thrown to pre-D3 Nikon DSLR users)

I don't think anyone has ever made a lens 100mm or over that's DX only, so
that's not a meaningful comment for this batch of lenses. (The Nikon
70-200/2.8 is such complete crap outside the crop area that it's actually a
crop-only lens, so that's a counterexample to this claim.)

But pretty much all the new glass over the last three years has been DX.
Other than the Canon 24-105/4.0, Nikon tilt/shift, and Stigma 50/1.4, there
has been an incredible amount of DX glass. (Or at least it seems that way if
you can't use DX glass.)

I don't think FX will ever be consumer priced at least until there some
whole new technology.

It depends what you mean by "consumer priced". Canon has stated that at some
point, all but the entry level models will be FF in the not-so-distant
future. US$1200 sure looks "consumer priced" compared to US$2700.

--
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan