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Guys,
I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? I'm asking as I'm really on the fence re the D90 vs. D300. I'm currently using a D70, and have been really happy w/ it. New features in a camera that interest me are the 3" LCD, ADR (or as Nikon calls it Active D-Lighting), Live View (how much I'll use it I'm not sure at this point). I know both the D90 and D300 have these features. What I'm not sure about is how much I'd use the movie mode in the D90, unless as I mentioned above the ability to pull stills from a video clip is practical. Jeff |
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Jeff Heyen wrote:
Guys, I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? Not with the D90. Its movie mode is at a much lower resolution. The Casio EX-F1 does attempt to do something just like that, though. -- Ray Fischer |
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"Jeff Heyen" wrote in message
. .. I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? I'm asking as I'm really on the fence re the D90 vs. D300. I'm currently using a D70, and have been really happy w/ it. New features in a camera that interest me are the 3" LCD, ADR (or as Nikon calls it Active D-Lighting), Live View (how much I'll use it I'm not sure at this point). I know both the D90 and D300 have these features. What I'm not sure about is how much I'd use the movie mode in the D90, unless as I mentioned above the ability to pull stills from a video clip is practical. I am coming around to the idea of video on an SLR. I wasn't sure about having a movie mode initially because I would prefer to have other new features to improve still photography instead, such as built in ND filters (low ISO), auto focus points positioned in more useable places for when shooting moving subjects, etc. Also, when I first heard of a movie mode I visualised the type of movie clips you get from mobile phones and P&S cameras, which are pretty diabolical. If I want to shoot video, then I would use my camcorder. That said, I will only take either the still camera or the camcorder depending what I am planning to shoot, because juggling between the two doesn't work very well in practice. As I prefer still photography, this means that my camcorder gets left at home most of the time. So, it will do no harm to have a video function, after all you don't have to use it. What will be interesting is whether the video that is produced will be on the same/similar level as what you get out of a camcorder. If it's the same quality that you get out of P&S and mobile phones, then it would be a feature that I would never use. If it's on par with a camcorder, then it would be a feature that could have it's benefits. It will be interesting to know what happens to the noise levels in still images if you have been using it to shoot video beforehand and then switch to still. As for action photographers using the video on this camera instead of stills, I doubt it because of the low resolution. If they were going to do this, then they would use a proper video camera with a higher resolution instead (which I have seen paps using before). For this type of use I wonder if we will start to see more of the likes of this appearing ![]() |
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"Paul" wrote in message
... As for action photographers using the video on this camera instead of stills, I doubt it because of the low resolution. If they were going to do this, then they would use a proper video camera with a higher resolution instead (which I have seen paps using before). For this type of use I wonder if we will start to see more of the likes of this appearing ![]() Sorry, I'm going to go slightly OT from the OP. Further to the above link regarding the Red DSLR killer, I also came across this (http://www.flickr.com/groups/twip/di...607215152834/). In this post it says "As Nikon and Canon release their 720P and 1080P, respectively, DSLRs with video capture... ". Where did they get the 1080P from? Has something been leaked about the 5D replacement? |
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![]() "Paul" wrote in message ... "Jeff Heyen" wrote in message . .. I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? I'm asking as I'm really on the fence re the D90 vs. D300. I'm currently using a D70, and have been really happy w/ it. New features in a camera that interest me are the 3" LCD, ADR (or as Nikon calls it Active D-Lighting), Live View (how much I'll use it I'm not sure at this point). I know both the D90 and D300 have these features. What I'm not sure about is how much I'd use the movie mode in the D90, unless as I mentioned above the ability to pull stills from a video clip is practical. I am coming around to the idea of video on an SLR. I wasn't sure about having a movie mode initially because I would prefer to have other new features to improve still photography instead, such as built in ND filters (low ISO), auto focus points positioned in more useable places for when shooting moving subjects, etc. Also, when I first heard of a movie mode I visualised the type of movie clips you get from mobile phones and P&S cameras, which are pretty diabolical. If I want to shoot video, then I would use my camcorder. That said, I will only take either the still camera or the camcorder depending what I am planning to shoot, because juggling between the two doesn't work very well in practice. As I prefer still photography, this means that my camcorder gets left at home most of the time. So, it will do no harm to have a video function, after all you don't have to use it. What will be interesting is whether the video that is produced will be on the same/similar level as what you get out of a camcorder. If it's the same quality that you get out of P&S and mobile phones, then it would be a feature that I would never use. If it's on par with a camcorder, then it would be a feature that could have it's benefits. It will be interesting to know what happens to the noise levels in still images if you have been using it to shoot video beforehand and then switch to still. As for action photographers using the video on this camera instead of stills, I doubt it because of the low resolution. If they were going to do this, then they would use a proper video camera with a higher resolution instead (which I have seen paps using before). For this type of use I wonder if we will start to see more of the likes of this appearing ![]() I have a 2 year old Sony Cybershot Point & Shoot Digital Camera with movie mode. I can shoot up to 60 minutes of video. The results are good enough to produce as an edited ( using Adobe Premier Elements) excellent DVD's in sound. The quality (video & sound) is good enough to show on my 19" monitor or 20" TV. It has a Zeiss Vario-Tessar 6.7-20.1mm lens. The Nikon D90 has got to be far superior to my old Sony with its tiny CMOS. |
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For the vast majority of high quality amateur work you will not see a
difference in image qulaity regardless of sensor in the Nikon line-up (excepting at high ISOs) from cameras subsequent to the D70. **** and moan but that is a fact because of the way most amateurs shoot and print. However when you look through the D200/80/90/300 the difference in the viewing systems will justify any upgrade because the D70 has such a small, dim viewfinder. I have little interest in video per se but occasionally use my P&S or EVF for that purpose. Hence the inclusion of movie mode in the D90 may get me to buy this thing when I swore I would sit out at least two upgrade cycles. |
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Jeff Heyen wrote:
Guys, I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? I'm asking as I'm really on the fence re the D90 vs. D300. I'm currently using a D70, and have been really happy w/ it. New features in a camera that interest me are the 3" LCD, ADR (or as Nikon calls it Active D-Lighting), Live View (how much I'll use it I'm not sure at this point). I know both the D90 and D300 have these features. What I'm not sure about is how much I'd use the movie mode in the D90, unless as I mentioned above the ability to pull stills from a video clip is practical. From what I've read, the movie mode is not terribly refined and you get panning artifacts amongst other irritants. I think 'movie' mode will appear in more and more DSLR's over the next few years; but video cameras will continue to be better at it than a DSLR for a while to come. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
... I have a 2 year old Sony Cybershot Point & Shoot Digital Camera with movie mode. I can shoot up to 60 minutes of video. The results are good enough to produce as an edited ( using Adobe Premier Elements) excellent DVD's in sound. The quality (video & sound) is good enough to show on my 19" monitor or 20" TV. It has a Zeiss Vario-Tessar 6.7-20.1mm lens. The Nikon D90 has got to be far superior to my old Sony with its tiny CMOS. Just found an amateur clip. Image quality looks OK. (http://guykawasaki.typepad.com/DSC_0018.AVI) (32MB) You are however limited by 6 minutes of recording in HD. Also, the focus locks during recording, which is a bit of a shame, especially if you are using a big aperture lens. |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:36:34 +0100, Paul wrote:
I can shoot up to 60 minutes of video. The results are good enough to produce as an edited ( using Adobe Premier Elements) excellent DVD's in sound. The quality (video & sound) is good enough to show on my 19" monitor or 20" TV. It has a Zeiss Vario-Tessar 6.7-20.1mm lens. The Nikon D90 has got to be far superior to my old Sony with its tiny CMOS. Just found an amateur clip. Image quality looks OK. (http://guykawasaki.typepad.com/DSC_0018.AVI) (32MB) You are however limited by 6 minutes of recording in HD. Also, the focus locks during recording, which is a bit of a shame, especially if you are using a big aperture lens. Rarely is more than 5 consecutive minutes of video really needed. If shooting your own personal documentary, the next 5 minute clip can be started almost immediately, or by shooting at less than HD resolution, longer clips are possible, up to the same 60 minutes according to the D90's manual. Also, are you sure that the focus locks? You may not be able to have the camera AF but MF should work, sacrificing convenience for control. Depending on the lens, many should also be able to override the lens's AF switch position and focus manually while shooting video. |
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![]() "Jeff Heyen" wrote in message . .. Guys, I've read a couple of opinions on the movie mode included in the new Nikon D90, and that many expect this to be a feature common to dSLRs moving forward. The opinions center on increased use of movie mode by action photographers, and editors then picking out the ideal photo from the movie clip. Knowing less than nothing about the movie mode, will this be a practical application for the amateur user? I'm asking as I'm really on the fence re the D90 vs. D300. I'm currently using a D70, and have been really happy w/ it. New features in a camera that interest me are the 3" LCD, ADR (or as Nikon calls it Active D-Lighting), Live View (how much I'll use it I'm not sure at this point). I know both the D90 and D300 have these features. What I'm not sure about is how much I'd use the movie mode in the D90, unless as I mentioned above the ability to pull stills from a video clip is practical. Jeff Guys, Thanks for the input. There were a lot of good thoughts. I'm getting very grounded in finding that the more meaningful upgrade to my D70 will be the D300. Jeff |
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