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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Jasen" wrote in message ... "Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... snipped other stuff "Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill." I suppose you think that the born again in the white house was living by the bible when he destroyed a country, killed thousands and celebrated "Mission Accomplished" afterwards? The reality 'we' live in, is built on hypocrisy and double standards. Never a greater truth has been spoken by any man. Islam and the US government plus a few other "mates" are virtually one and the same, although through different means and motivations. Just keep saying that over and over guys....We'll get another resounding Republican victory in 2008.....I love it........ |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Jasen" wrote in message ... "William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message ... "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... From the Mercury News: "BEIRUT, Lebanon - A Muslim protest over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad turned into a rampage that injured at least 30 people in Beirut on Sunday, as outrage over the drawings spread across continents and widened the rift between Islam and the West." http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13799947.htm Hmmm. Folks portrayed as violent fanatics protest by acting like violent fanatics. As Alanis Morrisette would say, "Isn't It Ironic?" I'm going to hate myself, but it seems that the main problem facing Islam is Islam. Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill. Someone writes a book they don't like? Kill the author. A cartoon? Kill the Danes. Did the Catholics protest when Maplethorp showed his work called "**** Christ?" Yes. Did they kill, or threaten to kill? No. Why is Islam so violent? My guess is that it's not Islam the religion that is so violent, but its the pare of the world that most of them come from that is so violent....They have been solving their problems for thousands of years by killing their enemies. It is also the misinterpretation of the Koran that makes them believe they must deal the way they do, plus violence is in their blood. But every religion's, "Koran" can be equally misinterpreted....There isn't a spitting difference between the Koran, the Bible, the Talmud, or any of them....They all say all things to all men. You can find anything you want in any of them. So if you are prone to violence, then you will be able to justify it in your "Koran", or whatever bible you use.... |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
Just keep saying that over and over guys....We'll get another resounding
Republican victory in 2008.....I love it........ Voting for your own doom, it's all been done before bub. "William Graham" wrote in message ... "Jasen" wrote in message ... "Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... snipped other stuff "Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill." I suppose you think that the born again in the white house was living by the bible when he destroyed a country, killed thousands and celebrated "Mission Accomplished" afterwards? The reality 'we' live in, is built on hypocrisy and double standards. Never a greater truth has been spoken by any man. Islam and the US government plus a few other "mates" are virtually one and the same, although through different means and motivations. Just keep saying that over and over guys....We'll get another resounding Republican victory in 2008.....I love it........ |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Jasen" wrote in message ... "William Graham" wrote in message . .. "Kinon O'Cann" wrote in message ... "Doug Robbins" wrote in message ... From the Mercury News: "BEIRUT, Lebanon - A Muslim protest over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad turned into a rampage that injured at least 30 people in Beirut on Sunday, as outrage over the drawings spread across continents and widened the rift between Islam and the West." http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/13799947.htm Hmmm. Folks portrayed as violent fanatics protest by acting like violent fanatics. As Alanis Morrisette would say, "Isn't It Ironic?" I'm going to hate myself, but it seems that the main problem facing Islam is Islam. Their solution to everything that they don't like is to kill. Someone writes a book they don't like? Kill the author. A cartoon? Kill the Danes. Did the Catholics protest when Maplethorp showed his work called "**** Christ?" Yes. Did they kill, or threaten to kill? No. Why is Islam so violent? My guess is that it's not Islam the religion that is so violent, but its the pare of the world that most of them come from that is so violent....They have been solving their problems for thousands of years by killing their enemies. Oh, and they have absolutely NO sense of humour. Have you seen those cartoons, quite funny really. Very clever. No religion has a lot of laughs....Even my fellow atheists have a sense of humor that is inversely proportional to their fanaticism....... |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Kinon O'cann" Yes.it's.me.Bowser wrote in message . .. "William Graham" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ps.com... The biggest problem with Islam is that, unlike in the West, there was never any central authority, no 'pope'. With the rise of protestantism, the rebellion against the papacy and the assetion of the hegemony by Henry VIII, and the attacks on religion by David Hume, the church was no longer looked upon as absolute. When the black death wiped out half of Europe, the clergy not excepted, the ability of clergy to protect against evils became suspect. Atheism became a much more reasonable position... And it still is....... I would love to see an atheist replace the so-called Christian we have in the white house now. Would be a huge step up. I would spend billions of dollars chiseling the, "In God We Trust's" off of all the public buildings.....:^) |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... Joseph, if you've ever followed my political rants of the past (and I can't imagine why you would) you would know I'm no fan of GW Bush. I have no illusions about the stupidity of Bush and his holy war. But two wrongs don't make a right, as they say. But just as "**** Christ" didn't start the Catholics rioting and killing, some stupid cartoon shouldn't start the Muslims down that road, either. Ahh, but Muslims have a different set of priorities and values. So you may say it's merely a cartoon, but it is blasphemy if you are a believer, there was once upon a time when Christians took Christianity seriously and lived by it's values, that blasphemy would have been as offensive as it is to Muslims today, but alas we in Christendom are so 'advanced' now we need not worry about such pesky little issues like religious values. "Worrying" about them, and killing thousands of innocent citizens over them are two different things........ |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Kernix" wrote in message oups.com... First of all, yes catholics did cause harm via persecution. We evolved! Secondly, Islam or Christianity - all religious fanatics are messed up. It's you friggin religious wachos that cause so many of the world's problems. Hear, hear! |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... It's you friggin religious wachos that cause so many of the world's problems. Err.. your President was brought to power by a group of religious wackos that believe Jesus is going to return to earth. No. I voted for him, and I have no religion at all. I voted for him the first time, because he wasn't a liberal. I voted for him the second time because he was willing to wage war on murderers, and I hope he goes after the ones in Iran and North Korea before his term in office ends. And I will campaign for anyone who says he will go after the murderers on this earth in his campaign rhetoric. The time has come for those of us who believe in freedom and hate oppression to stand up and fight the tyrants on this earth who are suppressing freedom and killing innocent people. We have to stop listening to the apologists who are willing to tolerate murderers of women and children, and leaders who are willing to build atom bombs and drop them on innocents. If we wait much longer it will be too late. I may not believe in God, but I know that there are evil people on the earth, and it is my job to get rid of them. By standing by and doing nothing, I am promoting their cause, and taking part in the evil that they represent. Keep turning your back on the daemons who are at your neighbor's door, and sooner or later, they are going to show up at your own door. And then you will have no one to blame but yourself. |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message news:ds8g20 Err.. your President was brought to power by a group of religious wackos that believe Jesus is going to return to earth. In the first place, he was voted in, and not "brought to power". His powers are carefully outlined in our constitution. And, in the second place, is that the only difference between you and the Republicans. Kewfi? - they believe that Jesus is going to return to earth, and you don't? Why would it matter where he "returns to?" Don't the Jews think he, (or someone else) will "return to earth"? Do the Catholics believe he will return? And why the hell would it matter, anyhow? - I thought he, or someone related in some way to him created the whole damn universe. If so, couldn't he and his relatives go anywhere they damn well please anytime they want to go there? And why would it matter where they are anyway? If you build a house, does it matter whether you are in the upstairs bath, or the basement utility room? Just what the hell are you guys talking about anyway, and how does it relate to some idiot building an atom bomb and dropping it on some little country and killing a few million people and contaminating the whole world with nuclear fall out, that will raise the cancer rate for a thousand years? |
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Off Topic: 30 Killed in Protest as Outrage over Cartoons Spreads
wrote in message oups.com... Northern Europe, AD 1300: People live in huts and have a few animals; disease, hunger, and plagues are common. Life expectancy is about 35 at best. Northern Europe, AD 2006: People live in warm houses and drive Mercedes and BMWs. They grow and drink the finest wines in the world. Food is abundant, disease is rare. Arabia, AD 1300: People live in huts and have a few animals; disease, hunger, and plagues are common. Life expectancy is about 35 at best. Arabia, AD 2006: (Aside from the few oill shieks): People live in huts and have a few animals; disease and hunger are common. Life expectancy is about 35 at best. Actually, make that 1900. by 2006, we had gone over there, dug a hole in the sand, and showed them that they had been riding their camels over a pile of black gold, and they could let us dig it up for them and sell it and give them most of the money, and they could trade in their camels for Cadillacs and build hospitals and clean drinking water plants and raise their life expectancy to like 70 years or so. (Which is twice 35, and about what the ME average was in 2000) |
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