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zone VI meters
Without being funny, how can you tell a Zone VI Modified Digital
Pentax meter from one that has not been modified. I am asking because I just bought one for a very reasonable price. It has the "Modified by Zone VI Studios Inc" sticker on the side. But is there another way? thanks |
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Whoooops - it is 3am here - brain fade - my apologies.
The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. (slinks off in embarassment...) Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. I guess one could try to look through the front lens and look into the meter. Never looked through a modified meter so I don't know what to look for but I'd guess the modifications would be easy to spot, at least if you know what an unmodified looked like. Severi |
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Severi Salminen wrote:
Whoooops - it is 3am here - brain fade - my apologies. The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. (slinks off in embarassment...) Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. I guess one could try to look through the front lens and look into the meter. Never looked through a modified meter so I don't know what to look for but I'd guess the modifications would be easy to spot, at least if you know what an unmodified looked like. Severi Your point about the sticker it taken, though I don't know if they are available any longer. I see nothing miraculous while looking through the meter either. Now that I look at it more closely, I note that there is also another sticker (much more substantial and less likely to get peeled off) on the side of the grip that says "Modified By Zone VI". As a practial matter, I don't think it actually matters that much anyway. Once I calibrated my personal EI using the meter, I use it as I would any other meter. The claim that you can just meter through a filter (which was one of the primary motivations for the modification) turns out to not be true - at least in my experience with the two I've owned... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ |
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The sticker is the only way I know of without having equipment and means of
testing that you probably don't have. However, it's a pretty good indication that the meter has in fact been modified. The only way it could be wrong is if the seller somehow was able to get his or her hands on a sticker and then put it on an unmodified meter, presumably for the purpose of defrauding a buyer. The stickers weren't sold separately from the modifications so finding one without having the meter modified wouldn't be easy. "davidb" wrote in message om... Without being funny, how can you tell a Zone VI Modified Digital Pentax meter from one that has not been modified. I am asking because I just bought one for a very reasonable price. It has the "Modified by Zone VI Studios Inc" sticker on the side. But is there another way? thanks |
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Whoooops - it is 3am here - brain fade - my apologies.
The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. (slinks off in embarassment...) Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. Oh come on, neither of you know what you're talking about so you're giving completely incorrect information. There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the zone system sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about . The zone system stickers were (and I think still are) sold separately from the meter and are used to assist in applying the zone system when determining exposure. These stickers have nothing whatsoever to do with whether the meter has been modified or not. The other sticker is the one David is asking about. Those stickers have nothing to do with the zone system. Those stickers say that the meter has been modified and they were NOT sold separately from the meter. The only way of getting one of these is to have the meter modified. So the existence of the sticker that David is asking about is a very good indication that the meter has in fact been modified. "Severi Salminen" wrote in message ... Whoooops - it is 3am here - brain fade - my apologies. The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. (slinks off in embarassment...) Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. I guess one could try to look through the front lens and look into the meter. Never looked through a modified meter so I don't know what to look for but I'd guess the modifications would be easy to spot, at least if you know what an unmodified looked like. Severi |
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Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and
it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. Oh come on, neither of you know what you're talking about so you're giving completely incorrect information. "Oh come on" yourself, re-read what I wrote and what I answered to. Tim was talking about the sticker around the barrel, the sticker with Zones on it, he was not talking about the "Modified by..." sticker that David allready mentioned in the first post. Tim wrote this: "The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. " David allready knows about "Modified by..." sticker and asked what _other_ ways there are to verify whether a meter is modified. And these Zone System stickers can be bought separately so it is not way to verify the matter. There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the zone system sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about . No he was not, please re-read. Severi S. |
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BEllis60 wrote:
The sticker is the only way I know of without having equipment and means of testing that you probably don't have. However, it's a pretty good indication that the meter has in fact been modified. The only way it could be wrong is if the seller somehow was able to get his or her hands on a sticker and then put it on an unmodified meter, presumably for the purpose of defrauding a buyer. The stickers weren't sold separately from the modifications so finding one without having the meter modified wouldn't be easy. Every meter modified has the sticker, so if you have an unmodified but working meter, and a modified but dead meter, some patience and some chemical glue remover, you might be able to remove the sticker, and glue it to the unmodified meter. |
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"BEllis60" wrote in message ... The sticker is the only way I know of without having equipment and means of testing that you probably don't have. However, it's a pretty good indication that the meter has in fact been modified. The only way it could be wrong is if the seller somehow was able to get his or her hands on a sticker and then put it on an unmodified meter, presumably for the purpose of defrauding a buyer. The stickers weren't sold separately from the modifications so finding one without having the meter modified wouldn't be easy. But making a sticker would be easy. I bought a second hand Pentax V and it came with sticker and a certificate stating the meter and S/N had been ZoneVI modified. Yes, the certificate could also be faked! The best proof that you have a modified meter is if you get much better exposed negatives, isn't that right people ;-) Guillermo |
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I said:
There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the zone system sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about . Severi S said : No he was not, please re-read. I did re-read. I don't know what messages you're reading but what I saw was the following statment from Tim: "The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. " The modified meter does come with a "stick on" but it doesn't have "various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system." The sticker that has "various shades of gray on it" etc. is the zone system sticker. So it was the zone system sticker to which Tim was referring. Just in case there is any remaining confusion, I'm holding in my hand my Pentax meter modified by Zone VI Studio. I also separately purchased the zone sysetem sticker so my meter has both stickers. The sticker that was attached when the meter was modified says: "Modified By Zone VI Studios Inc." That sticker can't be obtained except by having the meter modified so its presence tells you to a virtual certainty that the meter has been modified. I don't know of any other practical way of tellling that (which was the answer I gave to David's original question). The zone system sticker has, as Tim said, various shades of gray on it representing Zones I through VIII But that sticker has nothing to do with the modifications, it can be bought and applied to the meter without having the meter modified, so its presence doesn't tell you anything about the modifications. However, I apologize for my misunderstanding of your original response. When you referred to "the sticker" being bought separate from the modifications and so not being an indication that the modifications had been made, I thought "the sticker" to which you were referring was the sticker David asked about. "Severi Salminen" wrote in message ... Umm, you should go to bed... The sticker can be bought separately (and it can easily be also missing) so it is _definitely_ not a way to distinguish between modified and unmodified version. Oh come on, neither of you know what you're talking about so you're giving completely incorrect information. "Oh come on" yourself, re-read what I wrote and what I answered to. Tim was talking about the sticker around the barrel, the sticker with Zones on it, he was not talking about the "Modified by..." sticker that David allready mentioned in the first post. Tim wrote this: "The modified meter comes with a "stick on" around the barrel. This sticker has various shades of gray on it to correspond to each zone in the zone system. " David allready knows about "Modified by..." sticker and asked what _other_ ways there are to verify whether a meter is modified. And these Zone System stickers can be bought separately so it is not way to verify the matter. There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the zone system sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about . No he was not, please re-read. Severi S. |
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BEllis60 wrote:
I said: There were two stickers that Zone VI Studios used. One is the zone system sticker. This was the sticker Tim was talking about . Severi S said : No he was not, please re-read. I did re-read. I don't know what messages you're reading but what I saw was the following statment from Tim: Yes, I actually twisted my brains myself when trying to set you straight But I think we agree on everything: Zone System sticker can be bought separately, Zove VI Studios sticker can not. David asked some other identification than the Zone VI Studios sticker and Tim answered by referring incorrectly to the Zone System sticker. So the original question is still unanswered Severi S. |
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