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Hi All
I was hoping that someone here could answer a few questions I have regarding cameras in general and possibly point me in the direction of a good camera. Basically, I am looking for a 4/5MP camera with 2 - 3x optical zoom that takes standard AA batteries and ideally SD cards. Budget is £100 or slightly more. I purchased a Benq DC520, however the image quality is awful - a lot of noise and purple tinits when objects are against the sky. (Any recommendations?) I was also wondering if anyone knows if Kodak's cameras, for example the CX7430 and C360, work with standard generic AA alkaline batteries rather than the Kodak-branded rechargables. The reason I ask is that I want to take a camera on holiday and don't want to worry about recharging. Thanks in advance Adam |
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Just seen an article on Usenet that says a good set of Lithium
batteries will last a week without charge - is this true? It sounds too good. Thanks Adam |
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Adam M wrote:
Just seen an article on Usenet that says a good set of Lithium batteries will last a week without charge - is this true? It sounds too good. Depends whether or not you put them in anything. Leave'em on the shelf, they should last at least a week, maybe more. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0609-3, 03/03/2006 Tested on: 3/4/2006 12:03:03 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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I get a month or more off AA lithium using the camera every day for a
quick shot in a sony W5. New models are good on battery life. |
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Thanks very much for your help. I've currently got a Kodak DC215 (5
years and still good quality) so I would be fairly happy going with another Kodak. Do you think if I purchase a couple of sets of lithium batteries and charge them up before I leave then they would last three weeks? |
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On 4 Mar 2006 13:48:38 -0800, Adam M wrote:
Do you think if I purchase a couple of sets of lithium batteries and charge them up before I leave then they would last three weeks? It's hard to know what you mean. Nobody knows how long the batteries will last if you're talking about the number of shots you'd take over a three week period, not knowing the proportion taken using flash, and how much "chimping" you do. But if you're wondering if the lithium batteries would lose their a significant amount of charge (through self discharge) as NiMH batteries can, the answer is no. If you don't use them, lithium rechargeables can retain most of their charge for months. If you're talking about buying a couple of sets of lithium rechargeable batteries for your 5 year old camera, that's probably a waste of money. Put it towards a new camera that will take much better pictures and might even allow a single set of batteries, whether rechargeable or not, to last a month or two. And if it's really, really cold where you're from (icecubeland?), consider a camera that uses AA batteries, as lithium AAs can operate in much colder weather than even rechargeable lithium batteries can. |
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Adam M wrote:
Hi All I was hoping that someone here could answer a few questions I have regarding cameras in general and possibly point me in the direction of a good camera. Basically, I am looking for a 4/5MP camera with 2 - 3x optical zoom that takes standard AA batteries and ideally SD cards. Budget is £100 or slightly more. I purchased a Benq DC520, however the image quality is awful - a lot of noise and purple tinits when objects are against the sky. (Any recommendations?) I was also wondering if anyone knows if Kodak's cameras, for example the CX7430 and C360, work with standard generic AA alkaline batteries rather than the Kodak-branded rechargables. The reason I ask is that I want to take a camera on holiday and don't want to worry about recharging. Thanks in advance Adam Any Kodak camera that uses AA batteries will work with generic NIMH batteries, but most manuals warn against using alkaline batteries in their cameras. I have a DC6440 and it specifically prohibits use of alkaline batteries. NIMH, LI (disposables), CRV3, and RCRV3 batteries, as well as Kodak NIMH battery pack should work in these cameras. |
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Adam M wrote:
Just seen an article on Usenet that says a good set of Lithium batteries will last a week without charge - is this true? It sounds too good. Thanks Adam Well, they might last 6 months. It depends on how much you USE them.... Grin. |
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ASAAR wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:27:21 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote: I was also wondering if anyone knows if Kodak's cameras, for example the CX7430 and C360, work with standard generic AA alkaline batteries rather than the Kodak-branded rechargables. The reason I ask is that I want to take a camera on holiday and don't want to worry about recharging. ? Any Kodak camera that uses AA batteries will work with generic NIMH batteries, but most manuals warn against using alkaline batteries in their cameras. I have a DC6440 and it specifically prohibits use of alkaline batteries. NIMH, LI (disposables), CRV3, and RCRV3 batteries, as well as Kodak NIMH battery pack should work in these cameras. Most of the manuals that *you* have read may warn against using alkaline batteries. But *all* of the manuals I've read indicate that alkalines not only work in the cameras, but work very well. I suspect there may even be a few Kodak cameras that perform well using alkalines, especially some of the newer models. Canon and Fuji have sold cameras for a couple of years that can get nearly a thousand shots (or more) from a single set of alkaline batteries. Are you saying that Kodak has none that can manage even one or two hundred shots from a single set of alkaline batteries? Adam asked if there is a Kodak camera that he could take on holiday that would let him leave his charger at home, and your non-specific solution is to warn against alkalines, but recommend alternatives including several that would require bringing a charger on the holiday trip? As Sulu would say, "Oh my." . No, I am saying that none of the models for which I have read the manual does Kodak recommend using alkaline batteries. In fact, they specifically warn against using them. Since they design the cameras, I suspect they have their reasons for this warning. I would never suggest that a user put in batteries which the manual specifically warns him NOT to use. There are several alternatives, including NIMH, Lithium disposables, in two formats (AA and CRV3). Of course, I am sure Kodak would prefer users buy their proprietary NIMH rechargeable packs, but there are approved alternatives, just NOT alkalines. If I didn't want to carry my charger (and I don't for short trips), then I would take a couple of spare CRV3 batteries, and a charged set of NIMH. If Kodak produces a camera that uses alkaline AA batteries with permission of the manual, I am not aware of it. |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:10:06 -0600, Ron Hunter the timid wrote:
Most of the manuals that *you* have read may warn against using alkaline batteries. But *all* of the manuals I've read indicate that alkalines not only work in the cameras, but work very well. No, I am saying that none of the models for which I have read the manual does Kodak recommend using alkaline batteries. What are you disagreeing with? That I said "most" instead of "all"? If so, blame yourself, since I used "most" in reply to your statement that also used "most" instead of "all", as shown he Any Kodak camera that uses AA batteries will work with generic NIMH batteries, but most manuals warn against using alkaline batteries in their cameras. But the fact is that some of Kodak's cameras really are designed to operate with alkaline AA batteries. You either haven't read the right manuals or if you have read them, that might be why you said "most manuals" instead of "all that I've seen". No, I am saying that none of the models for which I have read the manual does Kodak recommend using alkaline batteries. In fact, they specifically warn against using them. Since they design the cameras, I suspect they have their reasons for this warning. I would never suggest that a user put in batteries which the manual specifically warns him NOT to use. There are several alternatives, including NIMH, Lithium disposables, in two formats (AA and CRV3). Of course, I am sure Kodak would prefer users buy their proprietary NIMH rechargeable packs, but there are approved alternatives, just NOT alkalines. You're really overstating the case against using alkaline batteries, making it sound as if there will be dire results if alkaline batteries are used. In fact, from the Kodak manuals I've seen, the ones that "warn" against using standard alkaline batteries make it clear that it's only because they don't last as long as the recommended batteries, not because they'll cause any kind of damage. I've only checked the manuals for the C-line cameras, and I assume that you haven't read the manuals for any of them, since they all recommend one battery type which you failed to mention, namely, the higher capacity ZR6 alkalines also known as Oxy-Alkaline batteries. And as I've been saying for quite some time, as newer camera models are introduced, they tend to be more efficient than the older models. This is true also for Kodak cameras, since the older models (such as the C300) recommend using at least the Oxy-Alkalines, while newer models (such as the C503/533,C603/643 ) drop the bar to allow standard alkalines to the recommended list. The only battery type that these manuals don't recommend using are AA manganese cells. Download one of these manuals and you might be pleasantly surprised. While for the longest battery life you'd probably need to get a Canon or Fuji camera, the latest Kodak cameras aren't too far behind. And they're small and *very* light, only 150 gm. If I didn't want to carry my charger (and I don't for short trips), then I would take a couple of spare CRV3 batteries, and a charged set of NIMH. If Kodak produces a camera that uses alkaline AA batteries with permission of the manual, I am not aware of it. Now you're aware of them. You've mentioned a number of times that you don't have unlimited funds for photography, so there'd be no need with one of these cameras to put money into relatively expensive CRV3s or lithium AAs. Just continue using your NiMH AAs and in a pinch, pop in 50 cents worth of alkalines. If you feel like splurging, you could still bring along a CRV3. If you don't want to download manuals, here's what is recommend for the cameras mentioned above (excepting the C300): 2 Kodak oxy-alkaline digital camera batteries AA ZR6 (non-rechargeable); 2-AA lithium digital camera batteries; 2-AA alkaline batteries; 2 Kodak Ni-MH rechargeable digital camera batteries AA; 1 Kodak lithium digital camera battery CRV3 (non-rechargeable); 1 Kodak Ni-MH rechargeable digital camera battery KAA2HR, 3V AC adapter |
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