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Old September 9th 15, 04:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-09 02:42:55 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 18:42:54 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Unlike some people who think that everyone who doesn't own the latest
shiny object indicates caveman mentality, I buy what meets my own
needs.


Well good for you.

I don't think others are wrong to feel they need a more sophisticated
device, but I do think they are wrong to think I'm doing something
wrong.


The only thing that has my head spinning is your admission that you
have no idea of what phone you bought.

If I have an iphone 4, (not that I know that I do or don't) and have
used it for over a year without any complaints, how can it be
considered to be something dumped on me? It has never not been
capable of doing what I want done.


It was dumped on you because that particular vendor was clearing their
inventory of EOL iPhones. Knowing your needs they should have sold you
something else. As a allegedly knowledgeable consumer you should have
been more aware when you entered that establishment.


OK...I took the Otter case off and looked at it. It's a Model A1387,
which - according to the web - makes it an iPhone4S. That it's a 4S
and not a 5 or whatever hasn't made any difference to me, and I'm no
better or worse off for the knowing.


OK.

The store didn't dump anything on me. I didn't even talk to a clerk
until I walked up to one and said this is the one I want. I really
don't recall if the 5 was available when I got my 4S. I don't like to
deal with clerks. All this one wanted to do, once I told him what I
wanted, was to bump me up into a higher data plan.


So, the iP4S is the puppy which licked your face and it didn't matter
what it did. You didn't really know any of the features, or capability.
Did you ask anything about the phone?
You sound like a tire kicker in a used car lot.

If I recall correctly, the price was the same on a number of phones
because I had no contract obligation, so it wasn't a "deal" because of
the model. With a contract, all the phones were just a few bucks and
price wasn't a factor.


You still had no idea of what you were buying. I have no idea of the
vendor or service providor you use, and I have no idea of what they
were offering.

What has my head spinning is that this is all something you feel is
important. I can't think why it would be.


Nowhere have I said that I felt that any of this was important to me,
and it isn't. What I did say was, I am baffled by what amounts to your
blind consumerism. I am sure you take more care when planing the
purchase of a car, camera, or computer. At least I hope you would.

It does everything I want
and expect in a phone. Why can't you understand this?


I understand that what you wanted was a basic phone to make and recieve
calls, to make, or recieve the occasional text, and to make occasional
use of the camera. You bought an iPhone to fill this purpose when it
wasn't needed, but it will certainly serve as a phone. That is what it
is at its core.

Like I said, don't confuse your interests with mine.

I don't, believe me, I don't.


And yet you have your whitey-tighties in a knot because I don't care
what model phone I have and that I'm perfectly satisfied with it.


Nope! You are the one with your "whitey-tighties" in a knot because you
had no idea of the progression of Apple iDevice connectors, and you
were bitching because you had to buy two different cords due to your
carelessness.

To me, a mobile phone is a utilitarian convenience. I go for days
without using it. The last call I received was Saturday morning from
my son telling me the football game was rain delayed. He got to the
feild early because the boys had to report early. No calls Sunday,
Monday, or Tuesday. No other reason to pull out the phone.


So? As I said, you seem to be suited to a basic feature phone not a
smartphone of any type.

When make or model of a product makes a difference to me, I'll put in
whatever time is required to research the field. That wasn't the case
here.


Obviously.

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Old September 9th 15, 04:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

OK...I took the Otter case off and looked at it. It's a Model A1387,
which - according to the web - makes it an iPhone4S.


there was no need to take the otterbox off.

as i said, a 4s has the headphone jack on the top and a 4x4 grid of
apps on each homescreen, either of which would confirm it was not an
iphone 5.

you could also have gone into settingsgeneralabout and obtained the
model #.

That it's a 4S
and not a 5 or whatever hasn't made any difference to me, and I'm no
better or worse off for the knowing.


apparently it does matter you, since you bitched about having two
different connectors.

if it was a 5, both your phone and ipad would have the same connector.
  #23  
Old September 9th 15, 04:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-09 03:06:34 +0000, Bill W said:

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 22:42:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

The last call I received was Saturday morning from
my son telling me the football game was rain delayed. He got to the
feild early because the boys had to report early. No calls Sunday,
Monday, or Tuesday.


That's because you don't have any friends, and you don't have any
friends because you are living in the past. Like 2014 or something.
Get hip.


1990

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Savageduck

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Old September 9th 15, 04:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-08 22:44:46 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:17:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


Le Snip

The iPad is an iPad Mini, but I have no idea if there are model
numbers for iPads. Again, I went to the Apple store in the mall and
bought what was available at the time.


I am baffled by your purchasing methodology. At a minimum I might have
thought you would have done some online research.


Like the phone, it does exactly what I wanted a device to do when I
bought it. I use it primarily - and almost exclusively - as a way to
display photographs that I've put up on Dropbox.


OK! I understand that your initial intention was to use your iPad Mini
as a portfolio for Dropbox images. However, I am curious as to whether,
or not you have explored the use of Lightroom Mobile and Collections as
method to make similar presentations. You are paying your subscription
and that is one of the benefits you are paying for.

I am not trying to make you do things my way, I am just saying it is
there, and you are paying for the service.

I find that Lightroom - Lightroom Mobile sync works very well. I don't
have to concern myself with the limitations of free Dropbox, and I can
get a public link for an image or a collection from Lightroom CC.
http://adobe.ly/1IB1zex

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Savageduck

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Old September 9th 15, 05:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-09 04:33:32 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 23:13:25 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

OK...I took the Otter case off and looked at it. It's a Model A1387,
which - according to the web - makes it an iPhone4S.


there was no need to take the otterbox off.

as i said, a 4s has the headphone jack on the top and a 4x4 grid of
apps on each homescreen, either of which would confirm it was not an
iphone 5.

you could also have gone into settingsgeneralabout and obtained the
model #.

That it's a 4S
and not a 5 or whatever hasn't made any difference to me, and I'm no
better or worse off for the knowing.


apparently it does matter you, since you bitched about having two
different connectors.

if it was a 5, both your phone and ipad would have the same connector.


Yes, I did think that was a scam. I wasn't aware that newer models
had the same connectors.

But, having known that at the time of purchasing the devices wouldn't
have affected my decision.

You said in an earlier post that you thought I had a 5.


Actually you made that guess in your second post in this thread. That
remark confused me.

If so, why
would you have accepted my statement that I needed two different
connectors? Knowing you, you would have yammered on about me buying
the wrong cables.

So, it seems you weren't aware the pad and an iPhone5 take the same
connector.


That would have depended on which iPad you had. You didn't tell us and
you were still guessing as to which iPhone you had. As I said I have an
iPad 2 with the old 30-pin dock connector, and an iPhone 5S with a
Lightning connector.

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Savageduck

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Old September 9th 15, 05:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-09 04:41:02 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 20:28:57 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-09-08 22:44:46 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:17:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


Le Snip

The iPad is an iPad Mini, but I have no idea if there are model
numbers for iPads. Again, I went to the Apple store in the mall and
bought what was available at the time.

I am baffled by your purchasing methodology. At a minimum I might have
thought you would have done some online research.

Like the phone, it does exactly what I wanted a device to do when I
bought it. I use it primarily - and almost exclusively - as a way to
display photographs that I've put up on Dropbox.


OK! I understand that your initial intention was to use your iPad Mini
as a portfolio for Dropbox images. However, I am curious as to whether,
or not you have explored the use of Lightroom Mobile and Collections as
method to make similar presentations. You are paying your subscription
and that is one of the benefits you are paying for.


I know about it, but don't have an interest in going through with it
at the moment. What I have in Dropbox is a select group of what I
want to be able to show. Viewing what's in Dropbox does not require
any internet connection.


If you are viewing image files from your desktop Dropbox folder, how do
you access them on you iPad without connecting to the internet?
They are not stored in an iPad Dropbox folder, are you importing from DB?

With LR Mobile, once the sync is completed no internet connection is
required, as the full size files are not synce, only Smart Previews.


I haven't ruled it out, but it's not a priority for me.


OK.

I am not trying to make you do things my way, I am just saying it is
there, and you are paying for the service.

I find that Lightroom - Lightroom Mobile sync works very well. I don't
have to concern myself with the limitations of free Dropbox, and I can
get a public link for an image or a collection from Lightroom CC.
http://adobe.ly/1IB1zex



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Savageduck

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Old September 9th 15, 06:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

That it's a 4S
and not a 5 or whatever hasn't made any difference to me, and I'm no
better or worse off for the knowing.


apparently it does matter you, since you bitched about having two
different connectors.

if it was a 5, both your phone and ipad would have the same connector.


Yes, I did think that was a scam. I wasn't aware that newer models
had the same connectors.


and now you do.

it's actually common for products to have different connectors as
technology progresses.

usb alone has nearly a dozen variants in its lifetime, with yet another
connector (usb-c) having recently become available.

But, having known that at the time of purchasing the devices wouldn't
have affected my decision.


so what.

You said in an earlier post that you thought I had a 5.


no, i said i thought you had a 4s.

your initial statement was that you had two different cables and i
explained the two different connectors.

which specific devices you have doesn't actually make a difference.
obviously one has a dock connector and the other has a lightning
connector.

you later guessed you had a 5, which would have meant that the ipad had
the dock connector. savageduck asked you to clarify which specific
models you had but all you said was iphone and ipad.

If so, why
would you have accepted my statement that I needed two different
connectors? Knowing you, you would have yammered on about me buying
the wrong cables.


then you are mistaken, yet again.

So, it seems you weren't aware the pad and an iPhone5 take the same
connector.


wrong.

it seems that you are once again trying to twist things in a feeble
attempt to turn it into another slam and failing miserably.

i'm *very* well aware of what connectors iphones and ipads use,
including the various third party cables and accessories that are
available, both mfi and not, as well as the mfi certification program
itself.
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Old September 9th 15, 08:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

If I recall correctly, the price was the same on a number of phones
because I had no contract obligation, so it wasn't a "deal" because of
the model. With a contract, all the phones were just a few bucks and
price wasn't a factor.


You still had no idea of what you were buying.


Oh, c'mon. You don't have to do research to know what an iPhone does.
They're all over the place. You can't be around other people and not
have someone pull out an iPhone. You can't be around other people and
not hear comments about their phone.


actually you should do research, since features vary among models.

the only way to find out which model best fits your needs is to know
what each of the models actually offer.
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Old September 9th 15, 01:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 08/09/2015 17:49, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:02:51 -0700, Savageduck


snip


What exactly are your iDevices?

iPad and iPhone.


The question was, "What exactly are your iDevices?"
By that I thought you would actually tell us what model of iPhone and
iPad you have.


I thought that was what you meant, but I honestly don't know. I went
to the AT&T store and bought an iPhone. I think it's an iPhone5, but
it may be a 5S. It didn't matter to me at the time. I wanted a phone
and bought what they had available.


Typical Apple customer :-)


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Old September 9th 15, 09:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-09-09 14:23:46 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

I wanted three features: ability to make and receive phone calls,
ability to take photos (but quality not an issue), touchscreen keypad.
The research required for this was glancing at each phone on display
in the AT&T store.

Additionally, I wanted a phone with a good history of dependibility.


Does this mean you aren't interested in the iPhone 6S, iPhone 6S+, or
the iPad Pro?


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