When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?

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When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?


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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:37:25 -0700, gaetanomarano wrote:

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When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?

Hopefully by then we'll have some other technology than this severely limiting
stone-age Bayer pixel array and overweight range-limited lenses for recording
photos. Maybe a nice organic nano-technology cube with thin-as-pellicle optics
zoomable from .0001mm (macro mode) to 10,000mm at f/0.x being able to focus on
micron sized objects to imaging galaxies (unaided) at magnitude 22, hand-held,
with full 3D audio and video recording, including being able to choose recording
wavelengths (image and sound) 6X or more to either side of the range of human
perception. When 30,000,000 flat and dynamic-range limited pixels will seem like
dragging a stylus in a clay tablet. When it's nothing more than a laugh about,
"The good ol' days when all we had was 30-megapixels in a Bayer array, can you
imagine having to put up with that crap back then ..."

Karnak the Great wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:37:25 -0700, gaetanomarano wrote:

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When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?

Hopefully by then we'll have some other technology than this severely limiting
stone-age Bayer pixel array and overweight range-limited lenses for recording
photos. Maybe a nice organic nano-technology cube with thin-as-pellicle optics
zoomable from .0001mm (macro mode) to 10,000mm at f/0.x being able to focus on
micron sized objects to imaging galaxies (unaided) at magnitude 22, hand-held,
with full 3D audio and video recording, including being able to choose recording
wavelengths (image and sound) 6X or more to either side of the range of human
perception. When 30,000,000 flat and dynamic-range limited pixels will seem like
dragging a stylus in a clay tablet. When it's nothing more than a laugh about,
"The good ol' days when all we had was 30-megapixels in a Bayer array, can you
imagine having to put up with that crap back then ..."


But will it take a nice shot of the grandkids
Dave Cohen

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:05:21 +0000, Karnak the Great wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:37:25 -0700, gaetanomarano
wrote:

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When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?

Hopefully by then we'll have some other technology than this severely
limiting stone-age Bayer pixel array and overweight range-limited lenses
for recording photos. Maybe a nice organic nano-technology cube with
thin-as-pellicle optics zoomable from .0001mm (macro mode) to 10,000mm
at f/0.x being able to focus on micron sized objects to imaging galaxies
(unaided) at magnitude 22, hand-held, with full 3D audio and video
recording, including being able to choose recording wavelengths (image
and sound) 6X or more to either side of the range of human perception.
When 30,000,000 flat and dynamic-range limited pixels will seem like
dragging a stylus in a clay tablet. When it's nothing more than a laugh
about, "The good ol' days when all we had was 30-megapixels in a Bayer
array, can you imagine having to put up with that crap back then ..."

I'm still waiting for personal jetpacks!!

-Art- (not Art)

We won't 99.9% of camera owners have no use for and do not have a computer
powerful enough to handle an image that size. 95% of people have no use for
anything above 20 to 25MP.

Somebody!

In article , Somebody says...
We won't 99.9% of camera owners have no use for and do not have a computer
powerful enough to handle an image that size.

My four year old computer has no problem opening and processing 30MP
images and even larger ones.

95% of people have no use for
anything above 20 to 25MP.

That's possible, but you might want to print a crop of an image or make
a poster sized print one day.
--

Alfred Molon
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Olympus 50X0, 7070, 8080, E3X0, E4X0 and E5X0 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

On Sep 22, 5:37 am, gaetanomarano wrote:
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When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?

Lunar X Prize:http://www.ghostnasa.com/posts/008moonprize.html
China WINS:http://www.ghostnasa.com/posts/009prizewinner.html
YouTube video:http://youtube.com/watch?v=lqIgl0kXkmo
My Website:http://www.gaetanomarano.it
My Blog:http://www.ghostnasa.com/

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They can probably sub-divide sensors of any size into those pixel
numbers. But you couldn't afford the lenses needed to make use of
that kind of resolution.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:05:21 GMT, Karnak the Great wrote:
: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:37:25 -0700, gaetanomarano wrote:
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: When we will have cheap 30,000,000 pixels digital cameras?
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: Hopefully by then we'll have some other technology than this severely limiting
: stone-age Bayer pixel array and overweight range-limited lenses for recording
: photos. Maybe a nice organic nano-technology cube with thin-as-pellicle optics
: zoomable from .0001mm (macro mode) to 10,000mm at f/0.x being able to focus on
: micron sized objects to imaging galaxies (unaided) at magnitude 22, hand-held,
: with full 3D audio and video recording, including being able to choose recording
: wavelengths (image and sound) 6X or more to either side of the range of human
: perception. When 30,000,000 flat and dynamic-range limited pixels will seem like
: dragging a stylus in a clay tablet. When it's nothing more than a laugh about,
: "The good ol' days when all we had was 30-megapixels in a Bayer array, can you
: imagine having to put up with that crap back then ..."

"By then"? By when? In your exuberance to foretell the future, you forgot to
actually name a date.

I'll go 2014 for the cheap 30Mp camera, but no earlier than 2050 for your more
grandiose scenario.

Bob

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Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:31:30 Scott W penned:

Somebody wrote:
We won't 99.9% of camera owners have no use for and do not have a
computer powerful enough to handle an image that size. 95% of people
have no use for anything above 20 to 25MP.

Somebody!

30MP is a really a very small image and just about any computer can
handle it with ease. You don't start to have problem until you are
above 100-200 MP, and even then it is no big deal if you have the ram
for it.

Scott

30MP is just 2X the resolution of a 7.5MP camera. Take 4 frames with a 10MP
camera, allowing some border overlap and stitch them together. You'll have the
very same image. 30MP is no vast improvement on today's technology. It's just
another one of those easy to manufacture numbers that they rely on to convince
you that a new camera is worth another $15,000 of your money.

This is a bit like the time that a CB-radio nut was telling me and everyone else
how he could talk to people 150 miles away because he had a powerful RF
amplifier on his antenna. My only question for him was, "What good is all that
power when you don't have anything to say that is worth listening to?" He had no
reply. This is the same reason that I don't bother paying for cable-TV, all
those channels with nothing on.

What good are all those mega-pixels when your photography isn't worth viewing?

I ran into someone who had a large-format photo studio situated in a very unique
location, affording him the opportunity to regularly photograph some subjects
rarely seen by others. In his studio he printed his photography to 6x4 ft. B&W
prints. According to the locals he was well known in the photography world yet I
had never heard of him. I shook my head as I walked out of his shop. Not one of
his photos would I even bother devoting to a postcard sized piece of paper. I
was there taking photos of the very same landscapes and flora & fauna, the same
subjects as he was printing, the only difference being that his photos were
bereft of any composition or appeal whatsoever. I had no intentions of selling,
just for personal use. Often handing them out for free to tourists in the area
whenever testing my solar-powered mobile setup for printing. Since his
photography was printed large-scale people who didn't have a clue about
photography nor art bought it for outlandish amounts of money. Later I checked
on Amazon to see about his published photography books. The highest price anyone
would pay for his hard-to-find and hefty coffee-table books was $3.75. A
testament to the quality of his photography. I was not wrong in my head-shaking.
People who didn't know any better paid thousands of dollars for a print. Not
because it was good but because it was big. Even worse, because others who also
didn't know any better told those people that his photography was worth buying.
Blind leading blind.

(I've since learned that quite a few renowned establishments in that area have
framed and now permanently display those 10"x8" and 18"x13" prints that I handed
out for free. Even though they were/are just test prints.)

A fool and his money are soon parted. Not just in buying photography but in the
cameras that they purchase to create it. Sure you'll be able to sell those
larger prints made from a 30MP camera but don't count on anyone ever applauding
you for your photography. They really only want something less annoying to cover
up that bad painting job or wallpaper.

Quality will beat quantity -- every time.