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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
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Leonard Evens wrote: Gregory Blank wrote: In article , Robert Feinman wrote: Having tilts and swings on the back of the camera is only a convenience for the photographer. It doesn't add any extra functionality. BS. In principle he is right. If you have enough tilt and swing on the front standard, you can rotate the camer and use the front movements. All a view camera does is allow you to place the front and rear standards in appropirate positions relative to one another. It doesn't matter how you arrange to do it; it is only the final relative orientation that matters. For example, some field cameras have no rear shift. But the same effect can be accomplised by rotating the camera and swinging the front and rear. Of course, in practice, that "convenience" may make all the difference in the world. There are physical limts to any particular way of holding the components together. For example, if you have a rear shift, you can do the above maneuver and then also shift to obtain a larger shift than you could without it. But of course My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm -- To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the measure of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the measure of skill. Sun Tzu |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
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Paul Atreides wrote: My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippodrome.htm Yeah, what he said ;-) -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
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Paul Atreides wrote: My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippodrome.htm Yeah, what he said ;-) -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
"Paul Atreides" wrote in message
... My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm I don't understand the relevance of the link above. Is it to show heavy digital manipulation of contrast and saturation, or what happens with a lack of view camera movements? What? |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
"Paul Atreides" wrote in message
... My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm I don't understand the relevance of the link above. Is it to show heavy digital manipulation of contrast and saturation, or what happens with a lack of view camera movements? What? |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
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"jjs" wrote: http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm I don't understand the relevance of the link above. Is it to show heavy digital manipulation of contrast and saturation, or what happens with a lack of view camera movements? What? Well there's no "heavy digital manipulation" They did take out some clutter on the stage area. The colors are accurate to my transparencies. As for movements that image has relatively none, I do have interior images that utilize back rise, back shift etc in conjunction with the front standard, hopefully you wouldn't realize it though as that is the goal. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
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"jjs" wrote: http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm I don't understand the relevance of the link above. Is it to show heavy digital manipulation of contrast and saturation, or what happens with a lack of view camera movements? What? Well there's no "heavy digital manipulation" They did take out some clutter on the stage area. The colors are accurate to my transparencies. As for movements that image has relatively none, I do have interior images that utilize back rise, back shift etc in conjunction with the front standard, hopefully you wouldn't realize it though as that is the goal. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
Paul Atreides wrote:
In article , Leonard Evens wrote: Gregory Blank wrote: In article , Robert Feinman wrote: Having tilts and swings on the back of the camera is only a convenience for the photographer. It doesn't add any extra functionality. BS. In principle he is right. If you have enough tilt and swing on the front standard, you can rotate the camer and use the front movements. All a view camera does is allow you to place the front and rear standards in appropirate positions relative to one another. It doesn't matter how you arrange to do it; it is only the final relative orientation that matters. For example, some field cameras have no rear shift. But the same effect can be accomplised by rotating the camera and swinging the front and rear. Of course, in practice, that "convenience" may make all the difference in the world. There are physical limts to any particular way of holding the components together. For example, if you have a rear shift, you can do the above maneuver and then also shift to obtain a larger shift than you could without it. But of course My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. I didn't say it as well, but that was really what I was trying to say. It is all right to talk about theoretical functionality in ideal circumstances without any physical limitations on your equipment and on your ability to use it, but one shouldn't identify that with what happens in the real world. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm |
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Another nail in the view camera coffin?
Paul Atreides wrote:
In article , Leonard Evens wrote: Gregory Blank wrote: In article , Robert Feinman wrote: Having tilts and swings on the back of the camera is only a convenience for the photographer. It doesn't add any extra functionality. BS. In principle he is right. If you have enough tilt and swing on the front standard, you can rotate the camer and use the front movements. All a view camera does is allow you to place the front and rear standards in appropirate positions relative to one another. It doesn't matter how you arrange to do it; it is only the final relative orientation that matters. For example, some field cameras have no rear shift. But the same effect can be accomplised by rotating the camera and swinging the front and rear. Of course, in practice, that "convenience" may make all the difference in the world. There are physical limts to any particular way of holding the components together. For example, if you have a rear shift, you can do the above maneuver and then also shift to obtain a larger shift than you could without it. But of course My point is in your last paragraph, and in his expounding,... The Convenience "IS" The Extra Functionality,.....and it is important to me when I use my 4x5 doing interior architectural photography. I didn't say it as well, but that was really what I was trying to say. It is all right to talk about theoretical functionality in ideal circumstances without any physical limitations on your equipment and on your ability to use it, but one shouldn't identify that with what happens in the real world. http://archives.baltimoremagazine.ne...hippo/hippodro me.htm |
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