Medium and Larhe Format :: which way

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:59:06 -0500, rafe b rafebATspeakeasy.net
wrote:

In the end, original thought and inspiration are both rare and
underappreciated.

Historically, "original thought" would get you
stoned to death, crucified, or burned at the stake.

Yeah but your photos would be worth $$$$$$ !

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John - Photographer & Webmaster
www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net

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rafe b rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote:

No advantage to the Average Joe. The Average Joe does
not need a $40 thousand camera.

The Average Joe didn't seem all that unhappen with his
110 camera.

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isnot wrote:

Better Light sells 4x5 backs starting at $6,495.00. with
52 megapixels. They go up to $17,995.00 for the highest
resolution.

John, is that a scanning back?

It is.

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isnot wrote:

Better Light sells 4x5 backs starting at $6,495.00. with
52 megapixels. They go up to $17,995.00 for the highest
resolution.

John, is that a scanning back?

It is.

Well, that's certainly limiting.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:19:39 -0600, "isnot"
wrote:

"rafe b" rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote in message
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Historically, "original thought" would get you
stoned to death, crucified, or burned at the stake.

Not as often as modern myths would like you to believe.

No myths. History. Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin.

These folks were not burned but under grave threat
from the church for the truths they tried to expose.

Hell, the modern-day American Taliban would
still like to have Darwin banished from our science
textbooks, and still try to accomplish that at every
opportunity.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

"rafe b" rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote in message
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No myths. History. Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin.

These folks were not burned but under grave threat
from the church for the truths they tried to expose.

Myths. Even Copernicus worked his whole life for the Church before and after
the so-called 'incident', and his punishment is overstated. The issue was
not whether his observations were true, but that they were not convenient
within the current political situation. He was not excommunicated, you know.
Galileo had a similar situation. Darwin was untouchable, preceded by plenty
of similar statements of fact.

John wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:34:09 GMT, "John Emmons"
wrote:

You've been woefully misinformed. One can purchase a digital back for much
less than $40,000. Try about $8,000.

You didn't include the cost of building a darkroom. Your "Joe Average"
wouldn't have the space or the equipment on hand to produce 20"x24" prints.

It doesn't take a lot. A decent enlarger and some trays in a kitchen
or bathroom can work. The space doesn't have to be a dedicated
darkroom.

Even with the cost of traditional darkroom equipment on the decrease, to
completely equip a darkroom with the proper equipment to produce the size
prints you're talking about would be a considerable cost.

B-&-H

Omega LPL 4550XLG Enlarger - $2250
Nikon 63/2.8 - $200
Nikon 135/5.6 - $360
Sounder 20X24 Easel - $500
Safelights, trays, tanks, tongs, a printwasher and a few accessories
for the enlarger, letsay $750

A one time investment of $4060

That's if you buy new. The "luddite" advantage
is what equipment worked 100 years ago still
works today. Unlike digtial you don't need
throwaway technology to make prints. I once
found an entire 4x5 darkroom set up the seller
wanted only $700 for (the enlarger was an older
Beseler.) In fact, these are quite common bargins
anyone can find.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:16:52 -0600, "isnot"
wrote:

"rafe b" rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote in message
.. .

No myths. History. Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin.

These folks were not burned but under grave threat
from the church for the truths they tried to expose.

Myths. Even Copernicus worked his whole life for the Church before and after
the so-called 'incident', and his punishment is overstated. The issue was
not whether his observations were true, but that they were not convenient
within the current political situation. He was not excommunicated, you know.
Galileo had a similar situation. Darwin was untouchable, preceded by plenty
of similar statements of fact.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Galileo


Galileo was harassed by the church from 1615
to 1633. Suspicon of heresy in that era certainly
constitutes a "grave threat." He spent the final
years of his life (from his trial in 1633 to to his death
in 1642) under house arrest.

You on the Vatican payroll now, Stafford?


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:35:35 -0500, rafe b rafebATspeakeasy.net
wrote:

Historically, "original thought" would get you
stoned to death, crucified, or burned at the stake.

Not as often as modern myths would like you to believe.

No myths. History. Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin.

Socrates. Perhaps the greatest loss.

==
John - Photographer & Webmaster
www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net

"rafe b" rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote in message
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Galileo was harassed by the church from 1615
to 1633. Suspicon of heresy in that era certainly
constitutes a "grave threat." He spent the final
years of his life (from his trial in 1633 to to his death
in 1642) under house arrest.

Of course the dimwit who wrote that doesn't tell you what house arrest meant
then, nor that Galileo still enjoyed more wealth and luxury than almost any
citizen, and could leave 'the house'.