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Discussion of Epson 4870 online
I've added a discussion about the Epson 4870 to the tips section of my
web site. Since their have been several good reviews posted already I've restricted myself to some comparisons of the resolution compared to other scanners; specifically the Minolta 5400 and an older 1600 dpi Epson flatbed. So if you're looking for the answer to "should I upgrade from my older flatbed?" I'm not sure I've answered your questions. There are full sized samples as links that you can download and play with if you wish. Finally, let me say that the supplied epson scan software is only useful for casual users (even in professional mode). There is also a copy of Silverfast supplied which I'll try to get to soon. I have tried Vuescan and it appears to work fine, but I'm still struggling with the setup on how to mark multiple images on a flatbed. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs http://robertdfeinman.com mail: |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:00:37 -0500, Robert D Feinman
wrote: I've added a discussion about the Epson 4870 to the tips section of my web site. Since their have been several good reviews posted already I've restricted myself to some comparisons of the resolution compared to other scanners; specifically the Minolta 5400 and an older 1600 dpi Epson flatbed. So if you're looking for the answer to "should I upgrade from my older flatbed?" I'm not sure I've answered your questions. There are full sized samples as links that you can download and play with if you wish. Finally, let me say that the supplied epson scan software is only useful for casual users (even in professional mode). There is also a copy of Silverfast supplied which I'll try to get to soon. I have tried Vuescan and it appears to work fine, but I'm still struggling with the setup on how to mark multiple images on a flatbed. How about scanning a very sharp section from a real slide or negative -- 0.25 inch by 0.25 inch, let's say -- so we can compare with other scans at http://www.terrapinphoto.com/jmdavis I'd be happy to post it on that page, alongside scans from my Artixscan 2500. I've asked this from a few 4870 owners but none so far have been willing. rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
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Discussion of Epson 4870 online
In case you think the 4870 may be the answer to LF scanning,
there is a speed issue with ICE. Epson quotes about 1 minute for 35mm film with ICE off and over 8 minutes with ICE on. The speed of the scan should be proportional to the size of the film.. I did a scan of a 6x7 slide with ICE and on my 450 MHz machine it took about 1 hour to process. So you'll probably want to be very selective as to when you use ICE. I can usually spot an image in Photoshop in about 5 minutes.. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes, Panoramas and Photoshop Tips http://robertdfeinman.com |
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Robert Feinman wrote:
In case you think the 4870 may be the answer to LF scanning, there is a speed issue with ICE. Epson quotes about 1 minute for 35mm film with ICE off and over 8 minutes with ICE on. The speed of the scan should be proportional to the size of the film.. I did a scan of a 6x7 slide with ICE and on my 450 MHz machine it took about 1 hour to process. So you'll probably want to be very selective as to when you use ICE. I can usually spot an image in Photoshop in about 5 minutes.. It usually takes me well less of that with 4 x 5 film. Partly it is because the spots are smaller, and partly it is a matter of being in a relatively dust free environment. I don't know about others, but for me, with 4 x 5, ICE is an unnecessary luxury. |
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"Leonard Evens" wrote in message
... Robert Feinman wrote: In case you think the 4870 may be the answer to LF scanning, there is a speed issue with ICE. Epson quotes about 1 minute for 35mm film with ICE off and over 8 minutes with ICE on. The speed of the scan should be proportional to the size of the film.. I did a scan of a 6x7 slide with ICE and on my 450 MHz machine it took about 1 hour to process. So you'll probably want to be very selective as to when you use ICE. I can usually spot an image in Photoshop in about 5 minutes.. It usually takes me well less of that with 4 x 5 film. Partly it is because the spots are smaller, and partly it is a matter of being in a relatively dust free environment. I don't know about others, but for me, with 4 x 5, ICE is an unnecessary luxury. Doing just fine with a 3200. As you say, spots are not the same problem they are on roll films, although I'm not sure how to explain that. I scan at 2400 and 3200 on both. |
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Doing just fine with a 3200. As you say, spots are not the same problem they
are on roll films, although I'm not sure how to explain that. I scan at 2400 and 3200 on both. I was considering the 3200, but then the 4870 came out. I will be using it with the Epson 4000 hopefully. Someone mentioned that they had a homemade way to "oil-mount" the 4x5 transparencies during the scan, similar to the oil-mounting they do for a drum scan. Does anyone know the proper procedure for oil-mounting while scanning? It's supposed to reduce the scratches and stuff, right? S. |
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In article , radio913
@aol.com says... Doing just fine with a 3200. As you say, spots are not the same problem they are on roll films, although I'm not sure how to explain that. I scan at 2400 and 3200 on both. I was considering the 3200, but then the 4870 came out. I will be using it with the Epson 4000 hopefully. Someone mentioned that they had a homemade way to "oil-mount" the 4x5 transparencies during the scan, similar to the oil-mounting they do for a drum scan. Does anyone know the proper procedure for oil-mounting while scanning? It's supposed to reduce the scratches and stuff, right? S. I don't think you'll enjoy the mess from oil mounting when scanning. It's mostly valuable for the big enlargements from small frmae sizes such as 35mm movies. With 4x5 and a normal degree of enlargement 4x - 6x the defects won't be that visible. The new Epson 4870 also has defect removal capability which may solve any spotting problems you have. We are still struggling with processing time for this function. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs http://robertdfeinman.com mail: |
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I just got the 4870. I tried to scan some 4x5 last night with the Digital
Ice and after no activity for about 10 minutes, I gave up. I see I should have been more patient. I use the Polaroid dust and scratch utility and have been happy with it, more so than the Silverfast dust and scratches..Evan Clarke "Robert Feinman" wrote in message ... In case you think the 4870 may be the answer to LF scanning, there is a speed issue with ICE. Epson quotes about 1 minute for 35mm film with ICE off and over 8 minutes with ICE on. The speed of the scan should be proportional to the size of the film.. I did a scan of a 6x7 slide with ICE and on my 450 MHz machine it took about 1 hour to process. So you'll probably want to be very selective as to when you use ICE. I can usually spot an image in Photoshop in about 5 minutes.. -- Robert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes, Panoramas and Photoshop Tips http://robertdfeinman.com |
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