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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Matt Clara wrote: SNIP Contrary to Scott's point in this thread, there's nothing inherently better in medium format lenses or bodies over 35mm. Wow, Matt, with all due respect, when did I ever say they were inherently better? They just are in practice, because the most serious photographers are willing to pay the price, and in reiteration, their superiority isn't all based on resolution. Of course negative size plays a roll, but it isn't the end all. I agree with Tony, as the imaging chips get smaller and less expensive, larger chips will become less expensive too! Critical photographers will probably be willing to pay the price that larger chips might command because of their bit depth and "ability to make lenses sharper". Scott Chapin |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Alexander Arnakis wrote:
Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000? When will we see it? This time next year? I would expect a D3 long before seeing anything called a D300. Guessing full frame, or something really close, is probably a fair prediction. I would expect better battery life in the future. I would also expect fairly good wireless file transfers. Things to hope for, but might not happen, would be a selectable RGB working space other than sRGB or AdobeRGB (hopefully ProPhotoRGB), or ideally some form way to stay within LaB space. Other nice thing would be CMYK in camera, much like some medium format digital backs, though I suspect the majority of Nikon engineers and end users are too clueless to use that to any advantage. A LaB Histogram would be nicer than the current sRGB waste of time. Oh well, will prices ever really come down much . . . seems like top line Nikon choices are over $4000, and mid range likely to stay near $2000. Of course, whenever a D300 would arrive, it might be possible to get a good used D200 for as little as $500. I would guess that around that time, the F6 would be the only Nikon film SLR. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:21:24 -0800, Gordon Moat
wrote: Alexander Arnakis wrote: Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000? When will we see it? This time next year? The most reasonable rumors I have picked up (here and there on the 'net) say that Nikon will have a full-frame DSLR announcement at PhotoKina next September, that is September 2006. PhotoKina is THE big tradeshow for the photo trade, so that is a logical place for such an announcement. Now, the event dates are fixed,, but the actual ship date is probably a bit more "flexible," so my personal planning is a purchase sometime in the first quarter of 2007. (saving up for it already, won't be inexpensive.) The only "spec" that I have heard is that there will be an automatic cropped mode for DX lenses. That is, DX lenses will be recognized by the body. Important details like price, other new or improved features, no information. Sensor type, nothing on that either. I know lots of people are saying, "Think of all the great pictures you could be taking if you went out now and got a D70 (or D200), instead of waiting for this full-frame sensor DSLR. True enough for digital photography, but I will simply continue to use my film cameras for now. If you look at Thom Hogan's web site here http://www.bythom.com/2005dreamdslrs.htm you will see his 2005 Nikon predictions, which he made in November 2004. Some of the predictions are out of date, but the D3 spec is still interesting reading. Father Kodak I would expect a D3 long before seeing anything called a D300. Guessing full frame, or something really close, is probably a fair prediction. I would expect better battery life in the future. I would also expect fairly good wireless file transfers. Things to hope for, but might not happen, would be a selectable RGB working space other than sRGB or AdobeRGB (hopefully ProPhotoRGB), or ideally some form way to stay within LaB space. Other nice thing would be CMYK in camera, much like some medium format digital backs, though I suspect the majority of Nikon engineers and end users are too clueless to use that to any advantage. A LaB Histogram would be nicer than the current sRGB waste of time. Oh well, will prices ever really come down much . . . seems like top line Nikon choices are over $4000, and mid range likely to stay near $2000. Of course, whenever a D300 would arrive, it might be possible to get a good used D200 for as little as $500. I would guess that around that time, the F6 would be the only Nikon film SLR. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Father Kodak wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:21:24 -0800, Gordon Moat wrote: Alexander Arnakis wrote: Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000? When will we see it? This time next year? The most reasonable rumors I have picked up (here and there on the 'net) say that Nikon will have a full-frame DSLR announcement at PhotoKina next September, that is September 2006. PhotoKina is THE big tradeshow for the photo trade, so that is a logical place for such an announcement. Now, the event dates are fixed,, but the actual ship date is probably a bit more "flexible," so my personal planning is a purchase sometime in the first quarter of 2007. (saving up for it already, won't be inexpensive.) The only "spec" that I have heard is that there will be an automatic cropped mode for DX lenses. That is, DX lenses will be recognized by the body. Important details like price, other new or improved features, no information. Sensor type, nothing on that either. I know lots of people are saying, "Think of all the great pictures you could be taking if you went out now and got a D70 (or D200), instead of waiting for this full-frame sensor DSLR. True enough for digital photography, but I will simply continue to use my film cameras for now. If you look at Thom Hogan's web site here http://www.bythom.com/2005dreamdslrs.htm you will see his 2005 Nikon predictions, which he made in November 2004. Some of the predictions are out of date, but the D3 spec is still interesting reading. Funny, the more I read into his "predictions", the more sense medium format digital backs make. This is all okay for speculating, or the enthusiasts market, but not so good for professionals. As it stands now, one needs to replace everything about every 18 months . . . it would be nicer to break that cycle, but I don't think it will happen. The part that needs the biggest help is the software colour modelling. This was something I worked on as a subcontractor this spring. The engineers just don't get it . . . yet. They seem to be understanding that as professionals, we need to have images printed; which means commercially output CMYK images, not internet, not HDTV, and not interpolated inkjet. Things might be getting better, but until the sRGB and AdobeRGB bias ends, there are serious problems (workflow and capture) that affect anyone doing commercial work intended for commercial offset printing. These are the things you should watch out for, and less so the availability of full frame sensors. In fact, it would not surprise me if Nikon went towards a 24 mm by 32 mm (or 34 mm) sensor to get more towards common printing sizes. The other direction might be a 16:9 aspect ratio, though I would expect it as a crop mode rather than a sensor size. Until that happens, it looks like medium format digital is the best professional choice. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:02:10 -0800, Father Kodak
wrote: I know lots of people are saying, "Think of all the great pictures you could be taking if you went out now and got a D70 (or D200), instead of waiting for this full-frame sensor DSLR. True enough for digital photography, but I will simply continue to use my film cameras for now. My standard of comparison is my 1985-vintage FM2n, which makes a nice package for use while traveling, and is absolutely reliable. I can carry the camera, normal lens, 24mm wide angle, 200mm with Nikon doubler, flash, etc., in a Domke satchel bag, and it's very portable and unobtrusive. I bought a D70 last year when they first came out, and although it has its good points, it's way too bulky to carry when traveling. Plus, it doesn't make good use of my MF lenses. What I would really like is a "digital FM2." The new D200 is a small step in this direction, in that at least it meters with the manual lenses. Full frame would be better, since a given lens would have the same perspective whether used in a film or digital camera (this is important for those who consider all their camera bodies and lenses to be part of a consistent "system"). After that, miniaturization and more efficient batteries would be logical improvements. (And where is it written that a digital camera has to be autofocus?) Until this happens, I'm going to stick with my FM2 and scan my film into the digital format. |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Isn't it obvious? The Nikon D300 will be like the D200, only 1.5 times more
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Does anyone on this group know about GIMP? I bet not...
Uncle Ron Gordon Moat wrote: Alexander Arnakis wrote: Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000? When will we see it? This time next year? I would expect a D3 long before seeing anything called a D300. Guessing full frame, or something really close, is probably a fair prediction. I would expect better battery life in the future. I would also expect fairly good wireless file transfers. Things to hope for, but might not happen, would be a selectable RGB working space other than sRGB or AdobeRGB (hopefully ProPhotoRGB), or ideally some form way to stay within LaB space. Other nice thing would be CMYK in camera, much like some medium format digital backs, though I suspect the majority of Nikon engineers and end users are too clueless to use that to any advantage. A LaB Histogram would be nicer than the current sRGB waste of time. Oh well, will prices ever really come down much . . . seems like top line Nikon choices are over $4000, and mid range likely to stay near $2000. Of course, whenever a D300 would arrive, it might be possible to get a good used D200 for as little as $500. I would guess that around that time, the F6 would be the only Nikon film SLR. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
"Uncle Ron" wrote in message oups.com... Does anyone on this group know about GIMP? I bet not... Uncle Ron Yes....I am thinking about installing it....I was here last night: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/faq.html |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Uncle Ron wrote:
Does anyone on this group know about GIMP? I bet not... A bit (I'm a Linux user), if you need to ask something better make a separate subject. Oh, by the way, the book "Grokking the GIMP" is very nicely done and well written without being too big/heavy, and the concepts hold in other image processing applications too. Regards, N.Fotis |
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What will the Nikon D300 be like?
Uncle Ron wrote:
Does anyone on this group know about GIMP? I bet not... I've used it. Thought it was pretty good, although I wasn't particularly impressed with the port to Windoze. |
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