What will the Nikon D300 be like?

Alexander Arnakis writes:

Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower
current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000?

1.5x, not full frame. Full frame is an expensive game with less and
less justification as the technology advances. Eventually new
high-end "full-frame" cameras will take over the current position of
medium format cameras.

When will we see it? This time next year?

Longer than that most likely.
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"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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SNIP

Eventually new
high-end "full-frame" cameras will take over the current position of
medium format cameras.

And MF cameras with 36mm square CCDs will replace Large Format cameras?


Scott Chapin

On 26 Nov 2005 16:52:58 -0800, "ras" wrote:

i certainly hope not. as far as i can see ff is a marketing gimmick for
all but dedicated ultra-wide angle enthusiasts. going to ff is a
double-edge sword as what you gain in the wide end you lose in the tele
and as far as joe consumer is concerned that's more often than not a
bum deal.

But couldn't that dilemma be solved by an on-camera cropping function?

- price point under 2k? done
- smaller form factor? why?? i think most everyone associates the size
as is with a 'pro' feel that is hardier than toy-like point and shoots.

How about a DSLR with the size and weight of a Nikon FM?

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Alexander Arnakis writes:


Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower
current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000?


1.5x, not full frame. Full frame is an expensive game with less and
less justification as the technology advances. Eventually new
high-end "full-frame" cameras will take over the current position of
medium format cameras.

Yes, they will have magic lenses which will supply all that resolution...

I don't think they will go for a 24x36 sensor. If they can get the pixel
desnsity they want
and get the noise level acceptable then I am sure Nikon thinks they have an
advantage
over Canon. E.g. no vignetting problems and for sports action were they are
a lot of
prof. users it can be an advantage to have smaller image angle using teles.

Try to read this "S4 Pro" rumor. The DX question is discussed also.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...5386821&page=1

Max

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"Alexander Arnakis" wrote in message
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Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower
current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000?

When will we see it? This time next year?

Why does everyone think that Nikon will bring out a 'full frame' camera
with the current lens mount?

Duncan.

In article ,
Duncan J Murray is.bit.uk wrote:
Why does everyone think that Nikon will bring out a 'full frame' camera with
the current lens mount?

Well, it is unlikely tat Nikon is going to introduce a new lens mount, and
there is no reason for Nikon to introduce a new lens mount if they want
to do full frame 35mm.

So the question then becomes "Why does everyone think that Nikon will bring
out a 'full frame' camera".

And the answer is that for some applications, bigger is better. If it wasn't,
there would be no reason to spend huge amounts of money on digital
medium format backs.


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Alexander Arnakis wrote:

Full-frame CCD, compatible with all AF and manual lenses, lower
current draw, smaller form factor, price point under $2,000?

I expect Nikon's long-awaited "auto-compose" feature to finally be
included. It'll automatically frame all your shots so accurately that
use of the viewfinder will rarely even be necessary.

Yes, but by that time, Canon will have their photo-robot on the market.
You won't need to even get up in the morning....You will just tell it to
go over to the coast and cover the kite festival, and then you can roll
over and go back to sleep........

Not only that, the new Canon will accept your instruction to make the
scene look like you think it should look.
Jim

And, people like the OP will be wondering what the new D400 with feature.
Jim

"Scott Chapin" writes:

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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SNIP

Eventually new
high-end "full-frame" cameras will take over the current position of
medium format cameras.

And MF cameras with 36mm square CCDs will replace Large Format cameras?

Not so likely, since a lot of the purpose for LF cameras is the
shifts, swings, and tilts.
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"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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"Scott Chapin" writes:

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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SNIP

Eventually new
high-end "full-frame" cameras will take over the current position of
medium format cameras.

And MF cameras with 36mm square CCDs will replace Large Format cameras?

Not so likely, since a lot of the purpose for LF cameras is the
shifts, swings, and tilts.
--

To an extent, but I find the thought interesting that these new FF 35mms
will replace MFs. I don't think so, because the optics on MFs are so
superior, and there digital solutions will still make them the choice for
serious work.

Scott Chapin

(Philip Homburg) wrote:

In article ,
Duncan J Murray is.bit.uk wrote:
Why does everyone think that Nikon will bring out a 'full frame' camera with
the current lens mount?

Well, it is unlikely tat Nikon is going to introduce a new lens mount, and
there is no reason for Nikon to introduce a new lens mount if they want
to do full frame 35mm.

So the question then becomes "Why does everyone think that Nikon will bring
out a 'full frame' camera".

And the answer is that for some applications, bigger is better. If it wasn't,
there would be no reason to spend huge amounts of money on digital
medium format backs.

I predicted a couple of years ago that Nikon would produce a camera that
is *both* full-frame *and* 1.5x crop: 16-or-so megapixels full frame
with the option of switching to 8-or-so megapixels at 1.5x crop (it
would automatically choose the latter when a small-image-circle lens was
fitted).

Just thought I'd bring it up again...