OT - Big changes from Google

Hi. I am posting this message from Google's new GOOGLE GROUPS 2 web
interface. This new system is about to replace the older and current
version of GOOGLE GROUPS. They have made at least two major changes:

1- NNTP Posting Host will no longer reveal the originating IP address
of the poster. Try to to find an IP in my header.

2- When you reply to a post through GOOGLE GROUPS 2, the full text of
the post you are replying to will be quoted in full. Posters will not
have the ability to trim or snip quoted text. Worst of all, the reply
will automatically be top posted, on top of the mandatory fully quoted
text.


JP

another reason to avoid posting through google........

"Jonovan Powell" wrote in message
...
Hi. I am posting this message from Google's new GOOGLE GROUPS 2 web
interface. This new system is about to replace the older and current
version of GOOGLE GROUPS. They have made at least two major changes:

1- NNTP Posting Host will no longer reveal the originating IP address
of the poster. Try to to find an IP in my header.

2- When you reply to a post through GOOGLE GROUPS 2, the full text of
the post you are replying to will be quoted in full. Posters will not
have the ability to trim or snip quoted text. Worst of all, the reply
will automatically be top posted, on top of the mandatory fully quoted
text.


JP

another reason to avoid posting through google........

"Jonovan Powell" wrote in message
...
Hi. I am posting this message from Google's new GOOGLE GROUPS 2 web
interface. This new system is about to replace the older and current
version of GOOGLE GROUPS. They have made at least two major changes:

1- NNTP Posting Host will no longer reveal the originating IP address
of the poster. Try to to find an IP in my header.

2- When you reply to a post through GOOGLE GROUPS 2, the full text of
the post you are replying to will be quoted in full. Posters will not
have the ability to trim or snip quoted text. Worst of all, the reply
will automatically be top posted, on top of the mandatory fully quoted
text.


JP

Jonovan Powell wrote:
1- NNTP Posting Host will no longer reveal the originating IP address
of the poster. Try to to find an IP in my header.

Google does include tracing information used to track reported abuse.
Note the following headers:

X-Complaints-To:
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1091576294 2705 127.0.0.1 (3 Aug 2004
23:38:14 GMT)

.... the latter of which contains a unique ID that Google probably links
with your IP address for future reference.

On second thought... 1091576294 would be the big-endian representation
of the IP address 65.16.33.250, which resolves to
host33-250.discord.birch.net, a (presumably dial-up) host from
birch.net, which is a regional provider in the US. Is this where you
posted from?

2- When you reply to a post through GOOGLE GROUPS 2, the full text of
the post you are replying to will be quoted in full. Posters will not
have the ability to trim or snip quoted text. Worst of all, the reply
will automatically be top posted, on top of the mandatory fully quoted
text.

That is much too annoying; and, frankly, I doubt Google made such a
mistake. Perhaps it's just the default behavior which can be disabled
through some "advanced settings" menu somewhere?

-Tudor.

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To reply by email, remove two L's from "freLLlling"

Jonovan Powell wrote:
1- NNTP Posting Host will no longer reveal the originating IP address
of the poster. Try to to find an IP in my header.

Google does include tracing information used to track reported abuse.
Note the following headers:

X-Complaints-To:
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1091576294 2705 127.0.0.1 (3 Aug 2004
23:38:14 GMT)

.... the latter of which contains a unique ID that Google probably links
with your IP address for future reference.

On second thought... 1091576294 would be the big-endian representation
of the IP address 65.16.33.250, which resolves to
host33-250.discord.birch.net, a (presumably dial-up) host from
birch.net, which is a regional provider in the US. Is this where you
posted from?

2- When you reply to a post through GOOGLE GROUPS 2, the full text of
the post you are replying to will be quoted in full. Posters will not
have the ability to trim or snip quoted text. Worst of all, the reply
will automatically be top posted, on top of the mandatory fully quoted
text.

That is much too annoying; and, frankly, I doubt Google made such a
mistake. Perhaps it's just the default behavior which can be disabled
through some "advanced settings" menu somewhere?

-Tudor.

--
To reply by email, remove two L's from "freLLlling"

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:38:14 -0700, Jonovan Powell wrote:

127.0.0.1

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Dallas
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:38:14 -0700, Jonovan Powell wrote:

127.0.0.1

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Dallas wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:38:14 -0700, Jonovan Powell wrote:

127.0.0.1

Dallas 127.0.0.1 is the standard IP address for the 'localhost'.

Regards,
--
Antonio Cangiano
Webmaster & Content Manager www.visualcsharp.it

Dallas wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:38:14 -0700, Jonovan Powell wrote:

127.0.0.1

Dallas 127.0.0.1 is the standard IP address for the 'localhost'.

Regards,
--
Antonio Cangiano
Webmaster & Content Manager www.visualcsharp.it

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:00:11 +0100, Antonio Cangiano wrote:

Dallas wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:38:14 -0700, Jonovan Powell wrote:

127.0.0.1

Dallas 127.0.0.1 is the standard IP address for the 'localhost'.

Regards,

Oh.

embarrassed

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Dallas
Group guidelines on http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
Improve signal to noise ratio by filtering all crossposts.